Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

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Postby SilverDragon72 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:35 pm

blackrabbit wrote:Wow, if they won't imprison him that scammer deserves a baseball bat shower!



:lol: :lol:

Ooh. Don't forget to use the soap!
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby mbailey1234 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:08 pm

I've never tried this but what about a conductivity? (or is is called continuity??) Different metal compositions have different magnetic properties but they also have differing abilities to conduct electricity.

Think about how a coin comparitor works. I bet there is some sort of way to use similar technology to get a comparison. Thing is you would have to make sure you had a genuine reference coin or bar for this to work.

I just checked continuity on a 40% half, 90% half and quarter and a ASE and they are all the same so I'm not sure that would be beneficial. :thumbdown: Not sure I can fine tune my tester to the point I could tell a difference though.

Wonder what those bars were made of?
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Postby Thogey » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:07 pm

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Postby Thogey » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:40 pm

If I have the gift of prophesy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to move mountains but do not have love I am nothing. And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned but do not have love it profits me nothing.
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Postby Thogey » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:52 pm

If I have the gift of prophesy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to move mountains but do not have love I am nothing. And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned but do not have love it profits me nothing.
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Postby mbailey1234 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:34 am

Thogey, get their address and send it over to N. Korea. Might be a good place to conduct their next test.

Sign of the times isn't it.... :sick:

So you go buy these.... http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/50928 ... _note.html

and then use them to pay for the links you listed?
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Postby blackrabbit » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:16 am

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered....The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby natsb88 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:22 am


That actually appears to be a picture of a real one. They can't even take pictures of the fakes?

I was set up at a gun show last weekend and had a guy try to sell me fake "lunar snake bars" on Sunday :thumbdown:
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby Thogey » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:27 am

I have one just like that one, I took it out and tested it. It's good.
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Postby JerrySpringer » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:32 pm

We need a Chris Hansen type to meet the fraudulent CL seller and get him on film. I don't know what it is, but I see reality TV shows in everything nowadays. Turn the tables on the thieves.
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Postby JobIII » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:44 am

I just found this post on about 8 different forums. I hope it helps raise people's awareness about plated silver. I'm kind of concerned that it could have the reverse effect and actually motivate people to try and hock these knowing good profits can be had.

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Postby beauanderos » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:47 pm

JobIII wrote:I just found this post on about 8 different forums. I hope it helps raise people's awareness about plated silver. I'm kind of concerned that it could have the reverse effect and actually motivate people to try and hock these knowing good profits can be had.

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I'm sure it will have both effects. But the greater good is served by warning others.
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby Mossy » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:34 pm

Airtites and counterfeit: exactly why I prefer to avoid "collectibles".
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Postby Tourney64 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:58 am

Excellent read. Glad your money back and provided help for others.
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Postby Copper Catcher » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:28 am

Back in October 2012 I posted this concern....
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18972

You might think about contacting Sunshine and the other silver bar makers to see if they want to join in as you go after this guy.
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby JobIII » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:13 am

I did get in touch with Amelia (253.528.1828) a contact in Pan-American Silver's legal department. She urged me to tell the seller to stop selling the fake pieces, and to forward her contact information to that buyer. If anyone else comes across fakes like these feel free to contact her.

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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby christostock » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:27 pm

So,
the guy who sold Junius the fake silver is now on the MASS most wanted list
AND
He is still trying to sell very expensive FAKE coins.
He now has
1873 cc trade dollar MS62
1874 trade dollar MS 62
and get this one
1893 S morgan AU50 (bid is $17,500)
He tried to meet one of my buddies yesterday.
He will not take these coins to a real coin shop because he knows the coin guys are too smart to bite.
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Postby JobIII » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:15 am

Chris that website (Mass most wanted) is so sketchy and all the people on it look so shady. I'm glad to have met one of the non-violent individuals listed on that website.

It's strange, I really thought he had been caught already.
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby Doctor Steuss » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:22 pm

christostock wrote:So,
the guy who sold Junius the fake silver is now on the MASS most wanted list
AND
He is still trying to sell very expensive FAKE coins.
He now has
1873 cc trade dollar MS62
1874 trade dollar MS 62
and get this one
1893 S morgan AU50 (bid is $17,500)
He tried to meet one of my buddies yesterday.
He will not take these coins to a real coin shop because he knows the coin guys are too smart to bite.

Couldn't the Secret Service get involved now that he is dealing with counterfeit legal tender?
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby JobIII » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:30 pm

I would have thought so too. Perhaps since he's already being followed by state and local authorities the secret service may have decided to stay out of it. Also we don't necessarily know that they aren't helping to apprehend this guy either.
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby NHsorter » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:40 pm

If he googled for a backpack and a certain kitchen appliance we could be sure that he would be picked up pretty quickly. The is a campground not too far from me where all the dudes with Mass warrants on them spend the summer. He is probably there.
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby JobIII » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:45 pm

Just a quick update. I was contacted by an agent with the Secret Service, and met him along with another individual with the Department of Homeland Security.

I guess there is an ongoing case for that person. I met with them and provided copies of all the info I could give them on my encounter. Luckily I saved everything, even all the voice messages that person left on my phone.

Definitely some positive news, before getting their call, I thought the Feds weren't giving this any attention.

8-) 8-) It was pretty cool asking to see their ID's 8-) 8-)

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Postby beauanderos » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:54 pm

JobIII wrote:Just a quick update. I was contacted by an agent with the Secret Service, and met him along with another individual with the Department of Homeland Security.

I guess there is an ongoing case for that person. I met with them and provided copies of all the info I could give them on my encounter. Luckily I saved everything, even all the voice messages that person left on my phone.

Definitely some positive news, before getting their call, I thought the Feds weren't giving this any attention.

8-) 8-) It was pretty cool asking to see their ID's 8-) 8-)

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there's news about a guy that was caught over in your area passing fakes. Is that him?

http://www.myrecordjournal.com/meriden/meridennews/3352972-129/man-charged-with-selling-fake-antique-coins-in-meriden.html
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby JobIII » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:33 pm

No that's not the person that I dealt with.
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Re: Oh no!!! I've been scammed into buying fake silver

Postby JobIII » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:24 pm

Hi All,

Just got an email from a guy in the Baltimore area. Who purchased a large amount of 1 oz bullion bars back around January. They were packaged just like the ones I bought up here in New England. And ended up being counterfeits. For anyone in the MD area buying bullion (Matthew, Sunshine, Pan Am Scottsdale bars, etc.) Please exercise caution when buying from new sources.

With silver prices on the rise, this might become more of an issue again...

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