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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby fansubs_ca » Sun May 18, 2014 12:31 am

henrysmedford wrote:
JadeDragon wrote:22 Minutes humorous take the penny phase out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mS5Q52N43c


Sad at will not play in the USA.
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.


Sorry about CBC "pulling a HULU" with their youtube channel:

With a little help from "Any Video Converter", problem now solved:

ftp://ftp.moonie.ca/video/22_Minutes-No ... ennies.mp4

The download should take about 4 minutes from my server. (At least I didn't have
to output the computer video to the VCR and mail you a VHS tape. ^_-)
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby henrysmedford » Sun May 18, 2014 4:25 am

fansubs_ca wrote:
henrysmedford wrote:
JadeDragon wrote:22 Minutes humorous take the penny phase out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mS5Q52N43c


Sad at will not play in the USA.
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.


Sorry about CBC "pulling a HULU" with their youtube channel:

With a little help from "Any Video Converter", problem now solved:

ftp://ftp.moonie.ca/video/22_Minutes-No ... ennies.mp4

The download should take about 4 minutes from my server. (At least I didn't have
to output the computer video to the VCR and mail you a VHS tape. ^_-)

Thanks. It reminds me of the RED Green show.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby fansubs_ca » Sat May 24, 2014 6:11 am

This week's penny report.

I was at Rona (a large sized hardware store, it's equivalent to a Home Depot or Menards)
buying an item where the total is $9.13 with taxes. I say I have exact change. The cleark
says they don't take pennies so I use a credit card instead. I figure if they want to charge
me 2¢ extra to pay cash they can pay the credit card processing fees. I do mention that
they are still legal tender so she asks the next clerk over who tells her they take them but
"only in 5s" which kinda defeats the point. WTF?

Next stop Costco, I go to get 2 hot dogs, total is $3.39, I pay exact change. they mention
they don't see pennies that often but otherwise it's not any big deal.

Then I do my store shopping in Costco, total is $28.49 so I hand them $30.49 expecting
back $2 change. The clerk tells me they don't take pennies. Now on my last shopping
trip there I paid that way I had no problem and a bit earlier the same day the food service
counter had no problem taking pennies.

Now I wonder if there really are corporate policies against pennies and I'm able to still
sometimes use them because they aren't consistantly practiced or if the places that
pennies aren't being accepted simply a matter of individual clerks that just don't like
them using the current situation to further their personal agenda because they've
always "hated pennies"?
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby 68Camaro » Sat May 24, 2014 6:23 am

Amazing how fast times change when you get past a tipping point. I suspect the younger ones couldn't wait to get rid of the cent.

I'm an "older" guy, and now in management. Have hired everyone in my department that is under 30. We've all read the articles on the differences in generational philosophy. But seeing it first hand brings it home. A peer manager to me had an informal lunch roundtable with his under 30 group and he asked them what differences they notice. The first response -echoed by head nods around the table - "you all (meaning us old farts) carry cash and use it to buy lunch!" My friend used it as a teaching opportunity on the value of money and avoiding credit - though I'm sure they were rolling their eyes on the inside.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby uthminsta » Sat May 24, 2014 10:20 am

fansubs_ca wrote:Now I wonder if there really are corporate policies against pennies and I'm able to still sometimes use them because they aren't consistantly practiced or if the places that pennies aren't being accepted simply a matter of individual clerks that just don't like them using the current situation to further their personal agenda because they've always "hated pennies"?

I would guess, based on your experience with the "only in 5s" teller, that it is a third option: they simply don't know. So they default to the thing which is least likely to get them in trouble...
THEY DON'T MAKE 'EM,
SO WE DON'T TAKE 'EM.
Tell us if a manager is ever present at one of these experiences.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby fansubs_ca » Tue May 27, 2014 2:47 am

uthminsta wrote:Tell us if a manager is ever present at one of these experiences.


In the Burger King examples the managers are consistant with the other
staff when they are working the tills. In the other places managers are
less likely to be at or near the tills.

I'll have to ask one of my freinds who's more prone to push issues what
his experiences are.

I've been front line to the public in enough jobs I'm a bit reluctant to make
an issue of something with someone who has no decision making power.
(I know just how annoying that can be to the employee. ^_-)

I'm more likely to look for ways to get my way that don't put the front line
employee between conflicting forces. (Like using the credit card.) The
downside being I don't get to test if it's someone just making it up as
they go or not.

Maybe I should make the method next time:

"OK, I'd like to do a mixed payment $9.10 cash and 3¢ on debt." :D

That will make it a bit more obvious on the paper trail than just "people
are using credit cards more".

Maybe this is annother reason why I prefer self check-out, the machine
does what it's coded to do, does it the same way every time and once
I've reverse engineered it I know what I have to do to get it to do what
I want it to. The machine has no "feelings" or "opinions" about what's
going on. (That and I can dump in bulk nickels and let it count them
while I do my bagging leisurely. ^_-)

You may be on to something with the "don't know" factor, I found that
if I try to spend a 50¢ piece older clerks have no problem while younger
clerks or anyone that came to Canada in the last 20 years (regardless
of their age) has no idea what they are. (Including a lot of bank tellers.)
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby hobo finds » Tue May 27, 2014 11:32 am

fansubs_ca wrote:This week's penny report.

I was at Rona (a large sized hardware store, it's equivalent to a Home Depot or Menards)
buying an item where the total is $9.13 with taxes. I say I have exact change. The cleark
says they don't take pennies so I use a credit card instead. I figure if they want to charge
me 2¢ extra to pay cash they can pay the credit card processing fees. I do mention that
they are still legal tender so she asks the next clerk over who tells her they take them but
"only in 5s" which kinda defeats the point. WTF?

Next stop Costco, I go to get 2 hot dogs, total is $3.39, I pay exact change. they mention
they don't see pennies that often but otherwise it's not any big deal.

Then I do my store shopping in Costco, total is $28.49 so I hand them $30.49 expecting
back $2 change. The clerk tells me they don't take pennies. Now on my last shopping
trip there I paid that way I had no problem and a bit earlier the same day the food service
counter had no problem taking pennies.

Now I wonder if there really are corporate policies against pennies and I'm able to still
sometimes use them because they aren't consistantly practiced or if the places that
pennies aren't being accepted simply a matter of individual clerks that just don't like
them using the current situation to further their personal agenda because they've
always "hated pennies"?


Now if I was a clerk and had other pennies I would give you back your $2.00 change with as many pennies I had in the drawer This would be good for you, as you use cents and the cleark wont have to count them at the end of the shift.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby JadeDragon » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:26 am

I was able to buy $24.50 in pennies at a new credit union branch. They still get rolls in even though they have the only coin counter in town. All other banks refuse to sell them even when I can see them sitting on the counter in bundles.

I finally finished unrolling the last of my unsorted pennies - an hour on the ryedale and a little hand sort to pull the american pennies and my penny sorting days are over.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby SilverDragon72 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:03 pm

I just found out that not all Canadian Coppers are 98%.....there are some that are 95.5% :oops:

Now I have to sort the 98 apart from the 95.5 that I have in a large Tidy Cat container, plus some.....DOH!

Anyway, I'm happy to keep finding these and getting them at FV! Same with the NI Nickels. :thumbup:
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby SilverDragon72 » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:26 pm

SilverDragon72 wrote:I just found out that not all Canadian Coppers are 98%.....there are some that are 95.5% :oops:

Now I have to sort the 98 apart from the 95.5 that I have in a large Tidy Cat container, plus some.....DOH!

Anyway, I'm happy to keep finding these and getting them at FV! Same with the NI Nickels. :thumbup:



Would any of you bother to sort your Canadian coppers into 2 separate kinds? :?
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby JadeDragon » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:52 pm

Yes I sort by percentage copper but only by default. The 98% started in 1942. I separate all the George VIs and very hard to find George Vs out from the Queens. So my Copper Queen bags are 98% copper.

The 1000 or so George VIs in my collection are therefore mixed 95-98% but they should be worth more to collectors someday than bullion so I am not worried about the Cu % on them.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby JadeDragon » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:11 pm

At $50 an unsearched box maybe I should not have sorted all my pennies out. Anyone think that these will sell? http://m.ebay.com/itm/301297861315?nav=SEARCH
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby Recyclersteve » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:09 am

JadeDragon wrote:At $50 an unsearched box maybe I should not have sorted all my pennies out. Anyone think that these will sell? http://m.ebay.com/itm/301297861315?nav=SEARCH


The listing is confusing. The photo only shows one box ($25 face), but it sounds like you are selling three of the boxes ($75 face). You might want to clarify somewhere in your listing that it is indeed $75 face.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby JadeDragon » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:00 am

Recyclersteve wrote:
JadeDragon wrote:At $50 an unsearched box maybe I should not have sorted all my pennies out. Anyone think that these will sell? http://m.ebay.com/itm/301297861315?nav=SEARCH


The listing is confusing. The photo only shows one box ($25 face), but it sounds like you are selling three of the boxes ($75 face). You might want to clarify somewhere in your listing that it is indeed $75 face.


Not my listing - since I have been dumping pennies at face value I hate to miss the boat.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby henrysmedford » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:43 am

Recyclersteve wrote:
JadeDragon wrote:At $50 an unsearched box maybe I should not have sorted all my pennies out. Anyone think that these will sell? http://m.ebay.com/itm/301297861315?nav=SEARCH


The listing is confusing. The photo only shows one box ($25 face), but it sounds like you are selling three of the boxes ($75 face). You might want to clarify somewhere in your listing that it is indeed $75 face.

I asked and got this--


Dear henrysmedford,

Yes. That is correct. 75 face value

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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby fansubs_ca » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:37 am

On WE I was at Costco, pennies accepted at both the food counter and the main cashier.
The main cashier actually thanked me for paying exact change.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby OdedPaz » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:19 pm

JadeDragon wrote:I was able to buy $24.50 in pennies at a new credit union branch. They still get rolls in even though they have the only coin counter in town. All other banks refuse to sell them even when I can see them sitting on the counter in bundles.

I finally finished unrolling the last of my unsorted pennies - an hour on the ryedale and a little hand sort to pull the american pennies and my penny sorting days are over.


If that's the case, would you sell me the Ryedale sorting machine...???
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby OdedPaz » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:20 pm

Question - which years are the Canadian Cents all copper (like the U.S. pre-1982 copper Cents)?
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby henrysmedford » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:56 pm

OdedPaz wrote:Question - which years are the Canadian Cents all copper (like the U.S. pre-1982 copper Cents)?



1908 - 1920
Composition: 95.5% copper, 3% tin, 1.5% zinc
Weight (g): 5.67
Diameter (mm): 25.4
Thickness (mm): n/a

1920 - 1941
Composition: 95.5% copper, 3% tin, 1.5% zinc
Weight (g): 3.24
Diameter (mm): 19.05
Thickness (mm): 1.65

1942 - 1977
Composition: 98% copper, 0.5% tin, 1.5% zinc
Weight (g): 3.24
Diameter (mm): 19.05
Thickness (mm): 1.65

1978 - 1979
Composition: 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
Weight (g): 3.24
Diameter (mm): 19.05
Thickness (mm): 1.52

1980 - 1981
Composition: 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
Weight (g): 2.8
Diameter (mm): 19
Thickness (mm): 1.45

1982 - 1996
Composition: 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
Weight (g): 2.5
Diameter (mm): 19.1
Thickness (mm): 1.45

1997 - 1999
Composition: 98.4% zinc, 1.6% copper plating
Weight (g): 2.25
Diameter (mm): 19.05
Thickness (mm): 1.45

2000 - present*
Composition: 94% steel, 1.5% nickel, 4.5% copper plating
Weight (g): 2.35
Diameter (mm): 19.05
Thickness (mm): 1.45

*Note: Since 2000, the 1-cent coin can be produced using either the copper-plated steel or copper-plated zinc compositions.
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Mintages

1908 - 1909
1908 - 2,401,506
1909 - 3,973,339

1910 - 1919
1910 - 5,146,487
1911 - 4,663,486
1912 - 5,107,642
1913 - 5,735,405
1914 - 3,405,958
1915 - 4,932,134
1916 - 11,022,367
1917 - 11,899,254
1918 - 12,970,798
1919 - 11,279,634

1920 - 1929
1920 - 22,246,170
1921 - 7,601,627
1922 - 1,243,635
1923 - 1,019,022
1924 - 1,593,195
1925 - 1,000,622
1926 - 2,143,372
1927 - 3,553,928
1928 - 9,144,860
1929 - 12,159,840

1930 - 1939
1930 - 2,538,613
1931 - 3,842,776
1932 - 21,316,190
1933 - 12,079,310
1934 - 7,042,358
1935 - 7,526,400
1936 - 8,768,769
1937 - 10,090,231
1938 - 18,365,608
1939 - 21,600,319

1940 - 1949
1940 - 85,740,532
1941 - 56,336,011
1942 - 76,113,708
1943 - 89,111,969
1944 - 44,131,216
1945 - 77,268,591
1946 - 56,662,071
1947 - 74,949,349
1948 - 25,767,779
1949 - 33,128,933

1950 - 1959
1950 - 60,444,992
1951 - 80,430,379
1952 - 67,631,736
1953 - 67,806,016
1954 - 22,181,760
1955 - 56,403,193
1956 - 78,685,535
1957 - 100,601,792
1958 - 59,385,679
1959 - 83,615,343

1960 - 1969
1960 - 75,772,775
1961 - 139,598,404
1962 - 227,244,069
1963 - 279,076,334
1964 - 484,655,322
1965 - 304,441,082
1966 - 183,644,388
1967 - 345,140,645
1968 - 329,695,772
1969 - 335,240,929

1970 - 1979
1970 - 344,145,010
1971 - 298,228,936
1972 - 451,304,591
1973 - 457,058,489
1974 - 692,058,489
1975 - 642,618,000
1976 - 701,122,890
1977 - 453,050,666
1978 - 911,170,647
1979 - 753,942,953

1980 - 1989
1980 - 911,800,000
1981 - 1,209,468,500
1982 - 876,036,898
1983 - 975,510,000
1984 - 838,225,000
1985 - 771,772,500
1986 - 788,285,000
1987 - 774,549,000
1988 - 482,676,752
1989 - 1,066,628,200

1990 - 1999
1990 - 218,035,000
1991 - 831,001,000
1992 - 673,512,000
1993 - 808,585,000
1994 - 639,516,000
1995 - 624,983,000
1996 - 445,746,000
1997 - 549,868,000
1998 - 999,578,000
1999 - 1,089,625,000

2000 - 2009
2000 - 902,506,000
2001 - 928,434,000
2002 - 830,040,000
2003 - 748,123,000
2004 - 842,486,000
2005 - 767,425,000
2006 - 1,261,883,000
2007 - 846,420,000
2008 - 787,625,000
2009 - 455,680,000

2010 - present
2010 - 486,200,000
2011 - 662,750,000
2012 - 199,347,000
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby JadeDragon » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:32 am

OdedPaz wrote:
JadeDragon wrote:I was able to buy $24.50 in pennies at a new credit union branch. They still get rolls in even though they have the only coin counter in town. All other banks refuse to sell them even when I can see them sitting on the counter in bundles.

I finally finished unrolling the last of my unsorted pennies - an hour on the ryedale and a little hand sort to pull the american pennies and my penny sorting days are over.


If that's the case, would you sell me the Ryedale sorting machine...???


Sorry - I still look for Ni Nickels.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby coolcoinz2017 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:34 am

With Canada scraping the penny, do you think the U.S. is close to doing the same? What did Canada do with the other coins? Are nickels, dimes, quarters etc... still worth the same? Can they still buy the same items they use to?
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby everything » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:00 pm

I guess the U.S. penny is done, it's only a matter of time, stick a fork in it.
http://cashmoneylife.com/us-mint-cease- ... roduction/


It's hard to say if we are close, doesn't seem so. http://www.retirethepenny.org/
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby henrysmedford » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:26 pm

everything wrote:I guess the U.S. penny is done, it's only a matter of time, stick a fork in it.
http://cashmoneylife.com/us-mint-cease- ... roduction/


It's hard to say if we are close, doesn't seem so. http://www.retirethepenny.org/



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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby JadeDragon » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:39 am

coolcoinz2017 wrote:With Canada scraping the penny, do you think the U.S. is close to doing the same? What did Canada do with the other coins? Are nickels, dimes, quarters etc... still worth the same? Can they still buy the same items they use to?


All the other coins remain the same. We don't use 1/2 dollars at all still. Transactions are rounded (usually automatically by the till) and no one even thinks about it anymore. I've seen absolutely no changes in price as a result of removing the penny. Prices are still expressed as .99 or .95 or .94 or .49 like before.
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Re: Canadian Government Scraps Pennies

Postby hobo finds » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:23 pm

JadeDragon wrote:
coolcoinz2017 wrote:With Canada scraping the penny, do you think the U.S. is close to doing the same? What did Canada do with the other coins? Are nickels, dimes, quarters etc... still worth the same? Can they still buy the same items they use to?


All the other coins remain the same. We don't use 1/2 dollars at all still. Transactions are rounded (usually automatically by the till) and no one even thinks about it anymore. I've seen absolutely no changes in price as a result of removing the penny. Prices are still expressed as .99 or .95 or .94 or .49 like before.


Are they still minting 1/2 dollars? Or are made just for collectors like our NIFC halves.
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