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Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby barrytrot » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:49 am

I copied this from another forum, it looks like a decent list to work from:

1909-S VDB
1909-S
1909-S Over horizontal S
1911-S
1911-D Over D (RPM)
1914-D
1914-S
1917-P Doubled Die Obverse
1922 No D
1931-S
1936 Double Die Obverse
1944 D/S Variety 1
1944 D/S Variety 2
1946 S/D
1955 Double die
1970-S Doubled die
1936 Double die obverse, the date, LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST has some doubling.
1941 Double die reverse: Doubling of the date and LIBERTY.
1943-D The D is stamped over another D (RPM).
1943-P Should be a steel cent but there are reports of some struck using copper.
1944-D D over S the mint mark D is stamped over the S.
1946-S S Mint mark stamped over a D mint mark.
1955-D Stamped over a horizontal D.
1955-P No VDB.
1955-P Lincoln Wheat Cent Double Die cent.
1956-D D Stamped over a D mint mark.
1958-P Double die obverse.
1959-D First year for Memorial reverse, check for wheat reverse.
1960-D D over D RPM
1960-P Look for Small Date variety, the 6 has a shorter stem than normal.
1963-D Check to see if the 3 in the date is struck over another 3.
1968-D D mint mark stamped over another D.
1968-D Double die reverse, strong doubling in the word AMERICA.
1969-S Lincoln Memorial double die, all design features strongly doubled.
1970-S Small date Lincoln Cent with a doubled die reverse, strong doubling of TRUST & LIBERTY.
1970-S Small Date high 7.
1970-S Level 7. The 7 is level with rest of date.
1971-P Double die obverse, strong doubling on LIBERTY & IN GOD WE TRUST.
1972-p Lincoln doubled die obverse
1973-P No V.D.B.
1980-D A shadow of an S mint mark struck above the D.
1982-P Doubling of IN GOD WE TRUST.
1982 DDR
1983-P Doubled die reverse doubled, IN GOD WE TRUST doubled.
1984-P Doubled ear, look at the ear lobe.
1984-D Doubled Date.
1989-P No VDB.
1992 Close AM
1992-D Close AM
1994-P Doubling of the last three columns on reverse.
1995-P Double die, LIBERTY doubled.
1995-D Double die obverse, strong doubling of the date and LIBERTY.
1996 Wide AM
1997-P Double Die, look at the ear lobe like the 1984.
1998-P Wide AM reverse Lincoln Memorial Cent.
1999-P Wide AM reverse Lincoln Memorial Cent.
1999-P There may be double dies varieties.
2000-P Wide AM in America.
2003-P May be doubling of the steps, experts say “yes”, mint says “no”.
2006-P Double Die Obverse
2009 Look for doubling of the thumb
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby Ireland_925 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:15 am

1959-D First year for Memorial reverse, check for wheat reverse.


I didn't even know a 1959 wheat reverse even existed. Has anyone seen a legit one of these? Maybe it is just me.

Also, should I be saving all the 1959's, since they are the first year memorials. Anyone getting a premium for these or suspect that there will be a collector demand in the future? I have a few full rolls of them that I just put in with my copper rolls. Wonder if I should dig them back up and set them aside?
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby TXBullion » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:34 am

What does it mean when it says no VDB?
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby highroller4321 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:53 am

TXBullion wrote:What does it mean when it says no VDB?



Victor David Brenner is the guy who designed the wheat penny. His initials are located on the reverse(backside) of only the 1909 penny as the very bottom of the coin. Some 1909's have his initials...some dont.
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby COINJIM » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:18 am

Thanks barrytrot this list will come in handy.
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby Roadrunner » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:39 pm

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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby anarchir » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:24 pm

I havent bothered to search for defects or rare dates/mints etc. It slows down my copper hunting!
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby TXBullion » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:17 pm

highroller4321 wrote:
TXBullion wrote:What does it mean when it says no VDB?



Victor David Brenner is the guy who designed the wheat penny. His initials are located on the reverse(backside) of only the 1909 penny as the very bottom of the coin. Some 1909's have his initials...some dont.


I was aware of this but for example, 1989-P No VDB , theres other years like that. What do those mean?
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby Diggin4copper » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:27 pm

In 1909 after just 3 days of printing, Charles Barber (Chief Engraver) was told that the initials were too big and to remove them. He was told to put a B on lincolns bust.. He did not want people to think he was the artist and refused. In 1917 after Barber died, the mint put the initials back on at the trunk of Lincolns bust. (I cant find them) taken from The complete Lincoln Cent Encyclopedia by Shane Anderson
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby Diggin4copper » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:32 pm

OK, I see them now, on the bottom rim of Lincolns bust near his right shoulder.. (Needed magnification)
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby John_doe » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:46 am

Roadrunner wrote:sticky?



I usually just toss those out.
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby TXBullion » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:08 am

Diggin4copper wrote:In 1909 after just 3 days of printing, Charles Barber (Chief Engraver) was told that the initials were too big and to remove them. He was told to put a B on lincolns bust.. He did not want people to think he was the artist and refused. In 1917 after Barber died, the mint put the initials back on at the trunk of Lincolns bust. (I cant find them) taken from The complete Lincoln Cent Encyclopedia by Shane Anderson


I didnt know about that. Ill have to check it out, thanks diggin
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby PreservingThePast » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:54 am

The no VDB could be a polished die type error or perhaps struck through grease so that the initials on the bust didn't show up.

Barry, sounds a lot like what I have been looking for from the information obtained in the book: Strike It Rich with Pocket Change, volumes 1 and 2

Don't know if there has ever been a 1959 with a wheat reverse, but it could be possible. The same could be possible to find a 1983 minted on a planchet from the 1981 or earlier composition.

And, they say it is possible to find a coin with a rotational error so I check every coin passing through my fingers for this type error even though I have yet to come even close to finding something like this.

Enjoy your coin searches, everyone. :geek:
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby Megaman » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:49 pm

There was a 1959 with a Wheat Reverse but only one has been found and the legitmacy of it has been questioned. If i recall correctly grading companies refused to grade it.
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby John_doe » Sat May 07, 2011 4:28 am

Bump, can one of the admins sticky this?

It would help a bunch, I know I'm a noob with no pull. :D
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby abe » Sat May 07, 2011 7:41 am

Here is a new discovery to look for;http://www.dvnmagazine.com/news.html
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby TXBullion » Sat May 07, 2011 10:03 am

abe wrote:Here is a new discovery to look for;http://www.dvnmagazine.com/news.html


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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby HoardCopperByTheTon » Sat May 07, 2011 12:28 pm

TXBullion wrote:
Diggin4copper wrote:In 1909 after just 3 days of printing, Charles Barber (Chief Engraver) was told that the initials were too big and to remove them. He was told to put a B on lincolns bust.. He did not want people to think he was the artist and refused. In 1917 after Barber died, the mint put the initials back on at the trunk of Lincolns bust. (I cant find them) taken from The complete Lincoln Cent Encyclopedia by Shane Anderson


I didnt know about that. Ill have to check it out, thanks diggin

Not going to dig any of the penny books out of the library (Yes, I hoard coin books too), but the initials were restored in 1918 rather than 1917. They are really tiny and located at the bottom of Lincoln's shoulder. This is one of the first things you check when looking at a raw 1914-D. The no VDB varieties of the later cents are the coins where die polishing has removed the initials. :mrgreen:
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby John_doe » Sun May 08, 2011 2:54 pm

Thanks admins!
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby TheJonasCollegeFund » Sun May 08, 2011 3:52 pm

I stop for coppers, too! :lol:
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby rsk1963 » Sun May 08, 2011 10:41 pm

Thanks so much for the list, there were more than a few that I didnt know about. This will certainly come in handy.
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby Gobirds » Sun May 15, 2011 4:21 pm

Awesome list. As a new guy on the block. It helps me out quite a bit.

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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby abe » Sun May 15, 2011 7:23 pm

http://lincolncentresource.com/Featured ... erted.html
Don't see this one on your list.
The one I owned I traded away,
if you ever visit Wexlers site you can see it there.
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby centavosdecobre » Sun May 15, 2011 7:34 pm

Question: Is it worth the effort to set aside "S" minted pennies as they are found?
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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

Postby henrysmedford » Sun May 15, 2011 7:57 pm

Megaman wrote:There was a 1959 with a Wheat Reverse but only one has been found and the legitmacy of it has been questioned. If i recall correctly grading companies refused to grade it.

More info here--http://www.coinlink.com/News/us-coins/controversial-1959-d/
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