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Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:49 am
by barrytrot
I copied this from another forum, it looks like a decent list to work from:

1909-S VDB
1909-S
1909-S Over horizontal S
1911-S
1911-D Over D (RPM)
1914-D
1914-S
1917-P Doubled Die Obverse
1922 No D
1931-S
1936 Double Die Obverse
1944 D/S Variety 1
1944 D/S Variety 2
1946 S/D
1955 Double die
1970-S Doubled die
1936 Double die obverse, the date, LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST has some doubling.
1941 Double die reverse: Doubling of the date and LIBERTY.
1943-D The D is stamped over another D (RPM).
1943-P Should be a steel cent but there are reports of some struck using copper.
1944-D D over S the mint mark D is stamped over the S.
1946-S S Mint mark stamped over a D mint mark.
1955-D Stamped over a horizontal D.
1955-P No VDB.
1955-P Lincoln Wheat Cent Double Die cent.
1956-D D Stamped over a D mint mark.
1958-P Double die obverse.
1959-D First year for Memorial reverse, check for wheat reverse.
1960-D D over D RPM
1960-P Look for Small Date variety, the 6 has a shorter stem than normal.
1963-D Check to see if the 3 in the date is struck over another 3.
1968-D D mint mark stamped over another D.
1968-D Double die reverse, strong doubling in the word AMERICA.
1969-S Lincoln Memorial double die, all design features strongly doubled.
1970-S Small date Lincoln Cent with a doubled die reverse, strong doubling of TRUST & LIBERTY.
1970-S Small Date high 7.
1970-S Level 7. The 7 is level with rest of date.
1971-P Double die obverse, strong doubling on LIBERTY & IN GOD WE TRUST.
1972-p Lincoln doubled die obverse
1973-P No V.D.B.
1980-D A shadow of an S mint mark struck above the D.
1982-P Doubling of IN GOD WE TRUST.
1982 DDR
1983-P Doubled die reverse doubled, IN GOD WE TRUST doubled.
1984-P Doubled ear, look at the ear lobe.
1984-D Doubled Date.
1989-P No VDB.
1992 Close AM
1992-D Close AM
1994-P Doubling of the last three columns on reverse.
1995-P Double die, LIBERTY doubled.
1995-D Double die obverse, strong doubling of the date and LIBERTY.
1996 Wide AM
1997-P Double Die, look at the ear lobe like the 1984.
1998-P Wide AM reverse Lincoln Memorial Cent.
1999-P Wide AM reverse Lincoln Memorial Cent.
1999-P There may be double dies varieties.
2000-P Wide AM in America.
2003-P May be doubling of the steps, experts say “yes”, mint says “no”.
2006-P Double Die Obverse
2009 Look for doubling of the thumb

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:15 am
by Ireland_925
1959-D First year for Memorial reverse, check for wheat reverse.


I didn't even know a 1959 wheat reverse even existed. Has anyone seen a legit one of these? Maybe it is just me.

Also, should I be saving all the 1959's, since they are the first year memorials. Anyone getting a premium for these or suspect that there will be a collector demand in the future? I have a few full rolls of them that I just put in with my copper rolls. Wonder if I should dig them back up and set them aside?

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:34 am
by TXBullion
What does it mean when it says no VDB?

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:53 am
by highroller4321
TXBullion wrote:What does it mean when it says no VDB?



Victor David Brenner is the guy who designed the wheat penny. His initials are located on the reverse(backside) of only the 1909 penny as the very bottom of the coin. Some 1909's have his initials...some dont.

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:18 am
by COINJIM
Thanks barrytrot this list will come in handy.

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:39 pm
by Roadrunner
sticky?

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:24 pm
by anarchir
I havent bothered to search for defects or rare dates/mints etc. It slows down my copper hunting!

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:17 pm
by TXBullion
highroller4321 wrote:
TXBullion wrote:What does it mean when it says no VDB?



Victor David Brenner is the guy who designed the wheat penny. His initials are located on the reverse(backside) of only the 1909 penny as the very bottom of the coin. Some 1909's have his initials...some dont.


I was aware of this but for example, 1989-P No VDB , theres other years like that. What do those mean?

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:27 pm
by Diggin4copper
In 1909 after just 3 days of printing, Charles Barber (Chief Engraver) was told that the initials were too big and to remove them. He was told to put a B on lincolns bust.. He did not want people to think he was the artist and refused. In 1917 after Barber died, the mint put the initials back on at the trunk of Lincolns bust. (I cant find them) taken from The complete Lincoln Cent Encyclopedia by Shane Anderson

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:32 pm
by Diggin4copper
OK, I see them now, on the bottom rim of Lincolns bust near his right shoulder.. (Needed magnification)

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:46 am
by John_doe
Roadrunner wrote:sticky?



I usually just toss those out.
:D

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:08 am
by TXBullion
Diggin4copper wrote:In 1909 after just 3 days of printing, Charles Barber (Chief Engraver) was told that the initials were too big and to remove them. He was told to put a B on lincolns bust.. He did not want people to think he was the artist and refused. In 1917 after Barber died, the mint put the initials back on at the trunk of Lincolns bust. (I cant find them) taken from The complete Lincoln Cent Encyclopedia by Shane Anderson


I didnt know about that. Ill have to check it out, thanks diggin

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:54 am
by PreservingThePast
The no VDB could be a polished die type error or perhaps struck through grease so that the initials on the bust didn't show up.

Barry, sounds a lot like what I have been looking for from the information obtained in the book: Strike It Rich with Pocket Change, volumes 1 and 2

Don't know if there has ever been a 1959 with a wheat reverse, but it could be possible. The same could be possible to find a 1983 minted on a planchet from the 1981 or earlier composition.

And, they say it is possible to find a coin with a rotational error so I check every coin passing through my fingers for this type error even though I have yet to come even close to finding something like this.

Enjoy your coin searches, everyone. :geek:

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:49 pm
by Megaman
There was a 1959 with a Wheat Reverse but only one has been found and the legitmacy of it has been questioned. If i recall correctly grading companies refused to grade it.

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:28 am
by John_doe
Bump, can one of the admins sticky this?

It would help a bunch, I know I'm a noob with no pull. :D

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 7:41 am
by abe
Here is a new discovery to look for;http://www.dvnmagazine.com/news.html

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:03 am
by TXBullion
abe wrote:Here is a new discovery to look for;http://www.dvnmagazine.com/news.html


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Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:28 pm
by HoardCopperByTheTon
TXBullion wrote:
Diggin4copper wrote:In 1909 after just 3 days of printing, Charles Barber (Chief Engraver) was told that the initials were too big and to remove them. He was told to put a B on lincolns bust.. He did not want people to think he was the artist and refused. In 1917 after Barber died, the mint put the initials back on at the trunk of Lincolns bust. (I cant find them) taken from The complete Lincoln Cent Encyclopedia by Shane Anderson


I didnt know about that. Ill have to check it out, thanks diggin

Not going to dig any of the penny books out of the library (Yes, I hoard coin books too), but the initials were restored in 1918 rather than 1917. They are really tiny and located at the bottom of Lincoln's shoulder. This is one of the first things you check when looking at a raw 1914-D. The no VDB varieties of the later cents are the coins where die polishing has removed the initials. :mrgreen:

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 2:54 pm
by John_doe
Thanks admins!

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:52 pm
by TheJonasCollegeFund
I stop for coppers, too! :lol:

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:41 pm
by rsk1963
Thanks so much for the list, there were more than a few that I didnt know about. This will certainly come in handy.

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 4:21 pm
by Gobirds
Awesome list. As a new guy on the block. It helps me out quite a bit.

thanks again.

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:23 pm
by abe
http://lincolncentresource.com/Featured ... erted.html
Don't see this one on your list.
The one I owned I traded away,
if you ever visit Wexlers site you can see it there.

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:34 pm
by centavosdecobre
Question: Is it worth the effort to set aside "S" minted pennies as they are found?

Re: Quick list of Lincolns to look for while roll searching

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:57 pm
by henrysmedford
Megaman wrote:There was a 1959 with a Wheat Reverse but only one has been found and the legitmacy of it has been questioned. If i recall correctly grading companies refused to grade it.

More info here--http://www.coinlink.com/News/us-coins/controversial-1959-d/
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