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Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:10 am**

24 inch slabs?
Awesome.

This town, Prescott was Built from granite blocks taken from a nearby mountain, "Granite Mountain"

I'll take this thing downtown and I'll bet that chain measures the granite blocks in the buildings perfectly.

I'll post pic.

Very cool.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:16 am**

silversaddle1 wrote:Stone splitting wedges. Always in pairs.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:33 am**

This is my last stab at this...

Engineer is right, this is for measuring 24" slabs.
But it was just used to mark the spots to be drilled and then split with wedge and feathers.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:40 am**

RichardPenny43 wrote:Wedge and feathers are three pieces, the wedge being one and the feathers two.

Yep...I said it wrong.

As RichardPenny says, these probably weren't used for the majority of the work. They may have been used for measurement, and possibly to prepare the outer edge of the hole for correct orientation of the feather & wedge.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:03 pm**

Engineer wrote:
RichardPenny43 wrote:Wedge and feathers are three pieces, the wedge being one and the feathers two.

Yep...I said it wrong.

As RichardPenny says, these probably weren't used for the majority of the work. They may have been used for measurement, and possibly to prepare the outer edge of the hole for correct orientation of the feather & wedge.

I can't let this go.

If this is true than why is the thickness of the spikes stamped on the sides. The user of this tool apparantly was told by the forman to go get a 3/4 inch (X) and get to work.

What is X?

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:15 pm**

Thogey wrote:What is X?

For lack of a better word, I'd call it a centerpunch.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:59 pm**

Not knowing squat about the details of how stone was quarried, this is interesting, and I'm even more interested that several people here seem to be at least somewhat familiar with the process and tools.

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:44 pm**

First thought was Surujin, or similar chained weaponry. And the Kunai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surujin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kusari-fundo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunai

Posted: **Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:26 pm**

Dude, for the expense of a single buck, you sure have gotten a lot of entertainment out of those two points with a keeper chain!! I am beginning to like this steampunk stuff! 8-)

My SWAG (Stupid Wild Ass Guess) says they are rail splitter wedges.

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:10 am**

Tools of the Spanish Inquisition?

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:47 pm**

Okay, what did you find out Thogey? What is it?

Posted: **Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:26 am**

AGgressive Metal wrote:Tools of the Spanish Inquisition?

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:15 pm**

Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay wrote:Okay, what did you find out Thogey? What is it?

OK I thinks I'm getting closer.

Mauk13r came over and we kicked this thing around

It's not a splitting wedge(no evidence of scratches) It's not a punch of anykind because there are no hammermarks one the tops.

They are marked 3/4 and are 3/4" inch thick, not wide, but thick. I think they are some kind of spacer. Mauk doesn't think a masonary tool because they are not scratched up.

Could they be spacers for some kind of timberwork, maybe ship building. It's a definitly a precision tool of some sort.

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:11 pm**

I believe the points are used to tie Log rafts together but the chain has been replaced to hang as decoration. the points can be longer it depends on hard wood or soft wood

Posted: **Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:14 pm**

OK what do you call this tool?

Posted: **Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:15 pm**

I don't know what to call them, but you got my attention with this steam punk stuff. I now look for it everywhere.

I am doing some work out in the oil patch and I see old oil field motors and stuff a lot. It is all still being used. There are about 7 huge compressors out there with these very large fly-wheels and wide belt drive gears being run on gas motors with old time governors on them. I bet they are 60 years old. I meant to take photos today, but got behind schedule and had to run. I will take photos next time I am out there.

Posted: **Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:22 am**

Could it be a tool that was just used for measuring and marking? lay the end of the chain at a set point, strtch to the end of the point, tap the flat spot above the ring, make your mark and repeat. 2 feet on center. A measuring jig of sorts?

Also, if that tile is made of salt, is the grout made of pepper? Just drop your food on the floor in the SW and it's seasoned? :lol:

Personally, I like more pepper than salt and would have even wider "grout" lines.

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:55 pm**

I talked to a guy today who insists they are lock/latch pins of some sort. But he doesn't know what fo.r

Posted: **Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:56 pm**

Just a guess but could be an alignment wedge for setting something like track sections.
the shape would be right for driving through the holes into wood ties that overlap at the ends of old hand car tracks that were used in mineshafts. The distance on the chain looks about right also.

Posted: **Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:50 pm**

F.I.ImGoingFishing wrote:Just a guess but could be an alignment wedge for setting something like track sections.
the shape would be right for driving through the holes into wood ties that overlap at the ends of old hand car tracks that were used in mineshafts. The distance on the chain looks about right also.

Hey GoingFishing, it looks like you joined realcent just to respond to Thogey's question. Anyway, welcome and hope you catch a big one.

Posted: **Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:49 am**

Just glue some gears on it and call it steampunk :thumbup:

Posted: **Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:40 pm**

shinnosuke wrote:
F.I.ImGoingFishing wrote:Just a guess but could be an alignment wedge for setting something like track sections.
the shape would be right for driving through the holes into wood ties that overlap at the ends of old hand car tracks that were used in mineshafts. The distance on the chain looks about right also.

Hey GoingFishing, it looks like you joined realcent just to respond to Thogey's question. Anyway, welcome and hope you catch a big one.

No. Just starting to research other realms of scrap metals. So registered to help keep the numbers up as that is what keeps forums alive.
I always register the sites I explore and if have in-put that may be usefull, even if only in my own mind that I contribute

Posted: **Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:20 am**

I remember seeing something like this in an old auto body shop where they unbent bent frames for cars (back when cars had frames lol). The old guy told me the way it works is you had to find another car of the same make and model that wasn't bent up, bring it in so you could pull your reference marks off that one. That's what all the holes are for in car frames; they were built to last back then, fixed, not just tossed if they got in a little wreck like they do today.

You stuck down some pieces of tape on the shop floor, hold one plumb bob underneath the frame in a reference hole and let the other end dangle down just off the floor and dot the tape with a grease pencil, then go over to the other side and put another dot the same way. Then put the bent frame up on jackstands, figure out which way you need to beat with the sledgehammer or hydraulic ram and keep going til it's true again. Used when you can't get a tape measure directly from point A to point B because there's a crossmember or suspension parts in the way.

The ones I saw were a lot less rusty and seemed more precision but the same idea. Explains why there's no hammer marks or gouging like if it was a pounding maul.

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:04 pm**

Could Be a Carcus hanger like for Pigs or Deer or maybe evan a large fish, to bleed them out or gut.

Posted: **Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:39 pm**

Those would be Log Dogs.

: Log dogs.jpg (6.79 KiB) Viewed 4428 times

Log Dogs are driven into the ends of the logs and a chain is threaded through the 3/4" hole in the Log Dog to bind the logs...

: log dog 4.jpg (4.06 KiB) Viewed 4428 times

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: Log Dog 3.jpg (6.56 KiB) Viewed 4428 times

together into a raft for transport down the river or across the lake.

http://www.auburn.edu/academic/forestry_wildlife/longleafalliance/teachers/glossary/logdog.htm

Go here to see some of the listings on E-pay that have sold.
http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_from=R4 ... ld=1&rt=nc

Your Log Dogs have been modified with an optional length of chain added to it for some other purpose.
Maybe to stabilize the far ends of the logs wile lifting one end at a time to build a log cabin or a bridge or something similar.

Hope this helps, I know this is an old thread but heck I just got here.

RAY

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