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Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Rodebaugh » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:00 pm

So here they are hanging out with a mercury dime. Any Ideas......?
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby AGgressive Metal » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:01 pm

The French Five Francs is a really nice piece I would put that in a 2x2 right away :) I don't have a 1800s book, but from what I've seen those can be valuable. It is not as rare as a US coin from 1831 because back then France was still a bigger country with a bigger mint, but its still a great score. And who knows, maybe the "A" mintmark makes it even better.

The German/Nazi piece is fairly common so in that condition I'd say it is just bullion, .900 fine 0.4016 ASW

The Portuguese coin I have never seen before, but if it is a legit coin from 1815 then I'd say it is a good score too.
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Rodebaugh » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:18 pm

Thanks. AGM.

have $47 invested in the lot including the merc.

Wish I could figure out that darn Portugal coin.
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby aloneibreak » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:27 pm

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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:28 pm

I think the Portugal coin might be a territorial issue 560 Reis?

I'm lookin.

Who did Portugal own in 1814?
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:29 pm

Brazil?
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby AGgressive Metal » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:30 pm

Thogey wrote:Brazil?


Brazil and Goa, and maybe some more. Brazil was the big cheese though.
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:31 pm

960 reis KM307.1

Brazil

That was fun!
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:34 pm

Why did I bother? aloneibreak found it already.

good job!

But I did it the old fashioned way.
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Rodebaugh » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:36 pm

Nice work guys! The wife guessed Brazil.....smart chick that one is.

So any value to it?
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:37 pm

Melt.
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby AGgressive Metal » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:39 pm

Thogey wrote:Melt.


Wow is that really what Krause says? That is weak :?
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby aloneibreak » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:41 pm

Thogey wrote:Why did I bother? aloneibreak found it already.

good job!

But I did it the old fashioned way.



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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:41 pm

Krause says 17.50 in VG. Melt at .7746 ASW is better.
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:43 pm

aloneibreak wrote:
Thogey wrote:Why did I bother? aloneibreak found it already.

good job!

But I did it the old fashioned way.



i dont get no respect :D


That's a double negative dude.....RESPECT!
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Rodebaugh » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:44 pm

So my coins weight .....25.5grams x what 90% silver = 23g

$21.50ish
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Rodebaugh » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:44 pm

And mucho respecto too aloneibreak
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby aloneibreak » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:46 pm

check out some completed ebay auctions...

might be worth a shot...
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:47 pm

Now get your asses over here. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3378

And help identify Jack's old coins. 3 old foreign ones.
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby AGgressive Metal » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:48 pm

True. I bet next year that coin gets adjusted upward in the catalog. No one in their right mind would melt an 1815 coin its too cool.
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Rodebaugh » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:56 pm

I will either list them here or let them take a hot dip into market harmony's swimming pool.

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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby AGgressive Metal » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:58 pm

Shoot I would have to buy the Brazil and French coin on principle rather than see them turned into a lump. Screw the nazi coin the fire can have it, haha.
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For nothyng is better than lyberte
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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby Thogey » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:01 pm

AGgressive Metal wrote:Shoot I would have to buy the Brazil and French coin on principle rather than see them turned into a lump. Screw the nazi coin the fire can have it, haha.



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Re: Some Old Word coins I picked up at lunch

Postby didou » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:30 am

AGgressive Metal wrote:The French Five Francs is a really nice piece I would put that in a 2x2 right away :) I don't have a 1800s book, but from what I've seen those can be valuable. It is not as rare as a US coin from 1831 because back then France was still a bigger country with a bigger mint, but its still a great score. And who knows, maybe the "A" mintmark makes it even better.


The A mint mark is for Paris according to my Krause. 1801-1900, 5th Edition, 2007 (silver was at $12.50 ozt back then)
If anything it make it worst, other mint are more valuable.

KM# 745.1 5 FRANCS
25.0000 g., 0.9000 Silver .7234 oz. ASW Mint: Paris
Edge: Raised lettering

Date VG F VF XF Unc
1831A 12.00 20.00 50.00 90.00 200


960 reis KM307.1

Brazil


KM# 307.3 960 REIS
and
KM# 307.1 960 REIS
seem the same and they both have a 1815 (1815-B, 1815-R)
i can't see where the mint mark is, the only difference i can see is the obverse isn't on the same die axis
If the coin wasn't rotated when scanned i would say KM# 307.3
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