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QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:52 pm
by uthminsta
New zincoln included for size comparison. Thanks for any help... I'm looking through my Krause catalog while I wait... who will attribute first?
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Re: QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:54 pm
by Thogey
Egyptand turkey

Re: QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:59 pm
by uthminsta
I haven't even found my book yet! Do you think all 3 of them are Egyptian? I kinda thought the last one was...

Re: QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:02 pm
by Thogey
Top right is turkey bottom is egypt not sure about top right

Re: QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:04 pm
by henrysmedford
Lower left USA.

Re: QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:44 pm
by uthminsta
Oops, forgot to hit SUBMIT.
I looked through the full listings for Egypt and Turkey. Looks like:
top left: Egypt 10 qirsh, 1901-1907, KM295, 833 fine.
top right: Egypt 5 piastres, 1916-1917, KM318.1, 833fine.
bottom right: Egypt 5 piastres, 1929, KM349, 833 fine.
So their worn weight is 26.4g, and at 833 fine that is .7 tOZ of fine silver...
Thanks for the help, Eric! ... and Joe... :lol:

Re: QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:39 am
by AGgressive Metal
I thought the top left was Ottoman from the symbol on it.

Re: QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:09 am
by Thogey
AGgressive Metal wrote:I thought the top left was Ottoman from the symbol on it.


I agree. The top left is a Turkish coin

Re: QUICK!!! Where are these from?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:15 am
by uthminsta
AGgressive Metal wrote:I thought the top left was Ottoman from the symbol on it.

Thogey wrote:I agree. The top left is a Turkish coin

I see the similarities too. And you guys got me digging again. Here's my thought process after more research (looking through the 19th and 20th century Krause books and some Google searches): Egyptian coins showed that they were part of the Ottoman Empire from 1876-1909, coinciding with the rule of Abdul Hamid II. The second symbol in the field to the top right of the main symbol (which I just found out is the honorific title on Turkish coins, while the main symbol is called a toughra) is consistent with the listings in the Egypt section (like a flower), not Turkey (lettering).

Also, the reverse is nearly smooth, but you can see 2 important things:
1) there are three stars at the top. All the Turkish examples have 1 star, all the Egyptian examples have 3. And all the Turkish coins that look similar in size and design... are gold.
2) the date is (AH)1293. That's the date used for all the Egypt KM295 coins from 1884-1907.