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Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:22 am
by rsk1963
My friend came to me recently with this, looking for prices/whether he should get it authenticated etc. I told him what I thought, and then said I would post it here, and see what the other jurors had to say about it.

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Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:23 am
by Verbane
Ireland, Elizabeth I (1558-1603), Third Coinage (1601-2). Hammered coinage.

The shilling should be Billon composition, but this apprears to be copper/bronze? Could be the coloring from the scan since billon is only 40% or less silver, but I would expect a grayer color.
Strike and almost perfect roundness are setting off some warning bells.

I'd like to see some close up pics out of the flip.

edit to add: I don't believe this is a miss-identified denomination. The 1601 1/2penny and penny should have the date flanking the Harp.

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:31 am
by Verbane

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:21 pm
by rsk1963
Verbane wrote:Ireland, Elizabeth I (1558-1603), Third Coinage (1601-2). Hammered coinage.


Strike and almost perfect roundness are setting off some warning bells.


Indeed, which is why it's here to be honest.

I will say that his late father inlaw (he being 73 now) had a massive collection including complete unc sets of morgans/peace/Bens (FBL of course), along with 200 or so pre 1900 gold coins and another 4 or 5000 pieces with about a third being from the 1700 & 1800's. And so it's authenticity is slightly more "believable" for a lack of better words because of the other amazing things he has in his collection, but yes the "niceness" of the piece, set off some warning bells in my head as well (for a convoluted story short).

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:07 am
by TheJonasCollegeFund
Let's see more goodies!!!!!

PLEASE

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:20 am
by rsk1963
TheJonasCollegeFund wrote:Let's see more goodies!!!!!

PLEASE



lol, I'll ask him if I can get some coinporn, for the addicts around here. He has a Birds over (Chinese silver dollar) that I've asked him to get certified.

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:09 pm
by rsk1963
your wish is my command... I'll get em up this evening.

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:56 pm
by rsk1963
After a short discussion with him, here is some of the better quality items that he was ok with putting up.

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Enjoy

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:39 pm
by Numis Pam
Nice! :thumbup:

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:33 pm
by Rosco
Coin Porn causes a Twitch in my wallet 8-)

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:15 pm
by rsk1963
Rosco wrote:Coin Porn causes a Twitch in my wallet 8-)

:clap: :lol:

try sitting down and bsing with the guy, and having them in your hands... makes for very difficult discussions sometimes.

Re: Neat Little 400 Year Old Piece

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:35 pm
by thepmetalstacker
love me some coin pron

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