1858 Canadian 20 cent

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1858 Canadian 20 cent

Postby Verbane » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:07 pm

I pulled this from a $150.00 foreign lot I bought locally this week. I was pretty pumped about this one, I paid melt for it. I'm thinking its VF-20 or better?

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Re: 1858 Canadian 20 cent

Postby Thogey » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:13 pm

Great coin!

I wonder how that one slipped through the cracks?
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Re: 1858 Canadian 20 cent

Postby didou » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:20 pm

Awesome

Original mintage is 730'392 but half of them have been returned to the mint to remelt and make the 25 cents.
Listed at $175.00 in VF-20, not sure how accurate it is.

There is 2 variety of this one, medal and coin orientation. ↑↑ and ↑↓
↑↓ being the rarest worth about twice as much as the other.
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Re: 1858 Canadian 20 cent

Postby Verbane » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:56 pm

didou wrote:Awesome

Original mintage is 730'392 but half of them have been returned to the mint to remelt and make the 25 cents.
Listed at $175.00 in VF-20, not sure how accurate it is.

There is 2 variety of this one, medal and coin orientation. ↑↑ and ↑↓
↑↓ being the rarest worth about twice as much as the other.


This one is in coin alignment, ↑↓. I rotated the coin for the scan.
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Re: 1858 Canadian 20 cent

Postby Thogey » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:04 pm

Verbane wrote:
didou wrote:Awesome

Original mintage is 730'392 but half of them have been returned to the mint to remelt and make the 25 cents.
Listed at $175.00 in VF-20, not sure how accurate it is.

There is 2 variety of this one, medal and coin orientation. ↑↑ and ↑↓
↑↓ being the rarest worth about twice as much as the other.


This one is in coin alignment, ↑↓. I rotated the coin for the scan.


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Re: 1858 Canadian 20 cent

Postby Verbane » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:15 pm

Thogey wrote:Great coin!

I wonder how that one slipped through the cracks?


A young guy selling his grandfathers collection for his grandmother. They both met me at the library. He had an idea of the melt value and didn't like what the pawn shops had offered.
He must have counted it as a quarter, and I didn't notice it when I did a quick count of the canadian stuff. I paid melt for the silver and got an additional 4 pounds of mixed foreign with it. He has my name and number, told him to contact me when they sell more!
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Re: 1858 Canadian 20 cent

Postby Verbane » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:09 am

After studying ICCS graded examples, to my untrained eye, this is a conservative VF-30, coin alignment. From what I can find, VF-20, coin alignment has a book value of ~$320.00... So, I want to get this graded.

My options listed by preference:
ICCS for the Canadian market, but I cant find any info online for fees or submission.
PCGS, if I can find a willing member to submit for me?
Final option is NGC.

Any thoughts or advice?
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Re: 1858 Canadian 20 cent

Postby didou » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:13 am

the EF-40 is listed at $600, maybe a good thing to get it graded ;)

ICCS doesn't have a website, you need to call Scott Cornwell at 416-488-8620, only has flexible plastic flips but the most know/respected grading here.
You may want to look at CCCS http://www.canadiancoincertification.com/ another Canadian grading company, he offer a hard slab options like PCGS and NGC.

I think both are ok if you sell to a Canadian, although i'm more of a bullion hoarder than a coin collector
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