November 2011 Market

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Re: November 2011 Market

Postby aloneibreak » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:10 pm

68Camaro wrote:So, it seems the path forward has been made more clear. The US Fed will continue to print vast amounts of USD, and will print enough to buy US bonds back from the Europeans, as well as execute currency swaps (to the extent the Euros have Euros to swap), as well as flooding US banks with USD so that they can buy Euro assets. Thus the US will be propping up Europe, for a time. None of the countries involved, however, US included, have made any significant inroads into controlling their sovereign debt, so the printing will continue. What does this mean?

Significant inflation, for years to come.... Eventual complete erosion of your savings, pension, social security. Not necessarily hyperinflation (yet), but - in a way - far worse. At least hyperinflation has a quick end; like a fever which spikes and burns itself out. Whereas long-term high inflation is a boil that won't heal, but continues to fester, slowly growing, making life increasingly more painful and miserable.

PMs are now sure to increase - significantly - over the next 2-5 years. $2500 gold and $60 silver by end of next year.


the news today just gives me a sick feeling in my gut...
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Re: November 2011 Market

Postby balz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:51 pm

Today is a day like this.

You are happy because you realize you were right.
You are sad because you realize you were right.
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Re: November 2011 Market

Postby 68Camaro » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:06 pm

balz wrote:Today is a day like this.

You are happy because you realize you were right.
You are sad because you realize you were right.


You got it...

And it's not like we're going to get rich out of this (necessarily). The people that are getting rich out of gold already made theirs - for the rest of us, it'll just be keeping up with inflation. There may be money to be made out of silver as (I, and many others believe) it is currently undervalued (GSR), but that will have a limit as well.

BTW - I love and continue to love the maple leaf design on all the CDN coins. Just wish the queen on the obverse was prettier. Can they go back to using the "young" queen? Is that shallow of me?
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Re: November 2011 Market

Postby balz » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:17 pm

68Camaro wrote:
balz wrote:Today is a day like this.

You are happy because you realize you were right.
You are sad because you realize you were right.


You got it...

And it's not like we're going to get rich out of this (necessarily). The people that are getting rich out of gold already made theirs - for the rest of us, it'll just be keeping up with inflation. There may be money to be made out of silver as (I, and many others believe) it is currently undervalued (GSR), but that will have a limit as well.

BTW - I love and continue to love the maple leaf design on all the CDN coins. Just wish the queen on the obverse was prettier. Can they go back to using the "young" queen? Is that shallow of me?


It's so frightening. I am in complete shock today as nobody seems to understand what just happened. It's highway to hyperinflation and it should be on the front page of every newspaper...

My revenue increases 2% by year until 2017 (end of working contract). This is very scary. VERY. I don't know what I will do.

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I love the CDN Maple.. the most beautiful coin ever minted I believe, but you are right for the old queen...

If you can get one, I really like CDN 80% silver dollar before 1967; the queen is young and she looks nice!
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Re: November 2011 Market

Postby 68Camaro » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:11 pm

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ecb-fa ... 2011-11-29

Hate the idea of printing inflation-creating fiat money for the purpose of funding socialist hand-out programs anyway, but that the Euros won't take care of their own problems by printing more of their own money, and we are weak enough to cave and print USD to bail them out, really ticks me off!! It's bad enough that we print as much as we do, but to print for them ... it's just insane. But am I :shock: 'd? Not with Bernake in charge of this.
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