Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Feel free to post your economic, business and political news, reports, and predictions concerning the U.S., Canadian, and world economy here. Please keep threads and posts on-topic.

Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby Copper Catcher » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:06 pm

Penny dropped

Image
The Canadian penny is no more worth its value.

A Canadian Senate committee has urged the government to remove the penny from circulation, saying the cost of producing it exceeds its financial value.

“The fact is that the penny is not of much use anymore,” committee chairperson Richard Neufeld said. There are roughly 22 billion pennies in circulation, or about 600 for each Canadian citizen.

A 2005 study found that getting rid of the penny would save more than Canadian $131million (US $130 m) in the cost of producing, storing and transporting the coins.

The committee recommended the coins be withdrawn during the next two years. “Most of us know the penny as little more than a nuisance that slows down the line at grocery stores, and ends up under our couches or in drawers,” Neufeld said.

Source: http://www.downtoearth.org.in/node/2804
User avatar
Copper Catcher
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 5206
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:00 pm

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby Corsair » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:28 pm

The way I understand it, this is just a recommendation by members of the Senate, is it not? There has been no hard law or order to remove the penny from circulation yet, correct?
"Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal. Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable."
User avatar
Corsair
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2406
Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:00 pm
Location: Columbus, Ohio

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby Copper Catcher » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:41 pm

You are correct... However there is no opposition to this at all and all the media reports are for doing away with the penny in Canada.

There appears to be no strong attachment to the coin unlike the story behind Lincoln as well as the lobbyist influence from the zinc and copper industry.
User avatar
Copper Catcher
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 5206
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:00 pm

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby uthminsta » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:45 pm

Okay. So let's say it IS TRUE in Canada. Let's say the 2011 is the final Canadian cent. Wanna place bets on how long the US keeps it up before they follow suit?
User avatar
uthminsta
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 6139
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:00 pm
Location: Illinois

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby Corsair » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:49 pm

uthminsta wrote:Okay. So let's say it IS TRUE in Canada. Let's say the 2011 is the final Canadian cent. Wanna place bets on how long the US keeps it up before they follow suit?


I think CC has a point. The US is so entangled with lobbyists that it would be nearly impossible for them to just ax the cent. Plus, there is a lot of love in the nation for good ole Abe. If Canada kills the penny, I would be willing to be the US's response would be another composition change.
"Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal. Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable."
User avatar
Corsair
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2406
Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:00 pm
Location: Columbus, Ohio

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby henrysmedford » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:31 am

Looks like you can order the 2011 in a mint set at http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/uncirculated-set-2011-prod1050005?pCatId=cat410002 Joe
User avatar
henrysmedford
Super Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 3814
Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:10 am
Location: Cascadia

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby toomuchcopper » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:50 am

Lets say that canada does indeed get rid of the penny. What does that then do to the value of the copper canadian penny? more value? or less?
In my opinion canadian copper was a good investment for the same reasons the US copper penny is a good investment as far as the minimal downside to the investment as it is guarranteed to always be worth at least face value. If the penny is eliminated, does it then become not legal tender anymore? does the govt. call in all the pennies as a one time deal where for a period of time you can cash them in and then after that they are no longer of monetary value? I would think that if the govt. eliminates the making of the penny they will have to eventually pull them from circulation as no one will be using them anymore for transactions. I think the approach the govt. takes will have a lot to do with how the whole thing will come down, I for one will be watching closely. This may be a valuable lesson for us all, in many ways.
for more information on copper pennies and copper penny sorting go to
WWW.CRAZYCOINGUY.COM
User avatar
toomuchcopper
Penny Hoarding Member
 
Posts: 681
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:00 pm
Location: vermont

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby Tourney64 » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:32 pm

You will see massive dumping of the Canadian pennies in the US if Canada stops production and US doesn't.
Tourney64
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2967
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:00 pm
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby JadeDragon » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:08 am

There is no way the Canadians will demonetize the penny (make it worthless). Stop producing it - absolutely that is going to happen. Senator Neufield is from the governing Conservatives and he is not just spouting off without some direction from PM Harper's office. All Canadian money every produced still has value but if a bank sees a discontinued coin/bill they will turn it in for destruction. That is how they pulled the dollar and two dollar bills out of circulation a few years ago - every time they were turned into the bank off to the shredders they went.

So if you have a lot of Canadian pennies stored expect them to get a lot rarer one of these days.

The biggest challenge will be that Canadian and US coins circulate on both sides of the border in partial interchange. The elimination of the Canadian penny would therefore put pressure on the Americans to ax the Lincoln cent.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw.
User avatar
JadeDragon
Realcent Moderator
 
Posts: 5434
Joined: Mon May 19, 2008 3:00 pm
Location: Canada

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby frugalcanuck » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:52 am

Canada to put pressure on America? I dont think the US knows what that is.
"The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent." John Kenneth Galbraith 1975
frugalcanuck
Penny Hoarding Member
 
Posts: 753
Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:00 am

Re: Canadian Penny - Soon to be DOA in 2011

Postby henrysmedford » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:49 pm

Franklin got his 2011 today!
Image
User avatar
henrysmedford
Super Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 3814
Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:10 am
Location: Cascadia


Return to Economic & Business News, Reports, and Predictions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests