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Chinese market up Thu night 4.8%
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:02 pm
by 68Camaro
Should be an interesting week next 18 hours....
Sunday night into Monday, down >8%.
Monday night into Tuesday down another 7.6%.
China is now near it's recent long-term highs, so they've lopped the top off of most of their bubble. Where does it go from here...
So China cuts interests rates and loosens bank rules. Shanghai market struggles back and forth but at end of day...
Tuesday night into Wednesday down another 1.3%
After Europe bounced Tuesday, with US continuing down and China as well, they are down at start of Wednesday as well.
Maybe time for a breather - a lot of money has been destroyed, some exhaustion has no doubt occurred with so many consecutive down days, and absorbing all of what has happened may take some time to sink in before any "knock-on" effects start kicking in.
QE4 here we come?
Wednesday night into Thursday up 5.3%
Thu am comments: And a breather we had, for a day. Maybe for several more. But you can't destroy trillions in capital in a fragile market without someone getting hurt. Let's see what happens.
Thursday night into Friday up 4.8%
China up again - but with a clear Chinese PPT action after a negative trend, which pumped the index up to the close. They are still not recovered. And some evidence of mixed markets around the globe with Hang Seng down 1% and Europe choppy and slightly negative as I write this. In the US I woudld have thought that the PPT would probably continue their upward push, afraid to trust being able to let off of the pedal just yet. However S&P Futures are down this morning.
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
Posted:
Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:10 pm
by rsk1963
one of the few instances you can see a shock wave creating out around the world
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:48 pm
by 68Camaro
Apparently there is a 10% max drop allowed on the chinese markets according to a link from Ray but not sure if that is per stock or for the whole market.
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:28 pm
by coindood
68Camaro wrote:Apparently there is a 10% max drop allowed on the chinese markets according to a link from Ray but not sure if that is per stock or for the whole market.
Well, that might get utilized early, now down 8.5% in only two hours of trading.
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:33 pm
by aloneibreak
get this...
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/23/china-gi ... arket.htmlim gonna go out on a limb and say china is in complete collapse
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:21 pm
by coindood
Dow futures are now at -417.00 for Monday (I initially wrote -388 but it's dropping pretty quickly).
China's plunge has wiped out all its 2015 profits.
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
Posted:
Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:32 am
by 68Camaro
For another day or two of major declines we're still burning off the top of the recent bubble. China was in a major bubble of <1 year old. The western markets were in a post-2008 mini-bubble. Markets are going to need to drop another 15% before we're into long-term crash mode. If this accelerates, we're there. If the Dow hits 14k and stops, it's a correction.
Remember, we could still burp badly, correct, and move up to a new major high before the big one happens.
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:02 am
by beauanderos
and... silver gets pummeled. At least gold is holding up for the time being.
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:46 pm
by 68Camaro
Expecting another down night for china..
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:58 pm
by Chief
68Camaro wrote:Expecting another down night for china..
Opens at 9:30 eastern time, right?
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -6.4% already
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:06 pm
by rsk1963
Chief wrote:68Camaro wrote:Expecting another down night for china..
Opens at 9:30 eastern time, right?
Yep...
https://youtu.be/ikssfUhAlgg?t=1m10s
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -5.5% again
Posted:
Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:54 pm
by 68Camaro
And so another night starts badly for the market. But it will take another night or two of this to lop off the chinese bubble of 2014-2015. Key will be what happens at the end of this week and next.
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -5.5% again
Posted:
Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:56 pm
by rsk1963
and another 6% evaporates as it stands.... hold on to your trousers and restock your toilet paper.
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -5.5% again
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:59 pm
by rsk1963
bright side here... oil stopped just under 38, seems to be (at least temporarily) leveling out
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -5.5% again
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:38 pm
by theo
rsk1963 wrote:and another 6% evaporates as it stands.... hold on to your trousers and restock your toilet paper.
Great. Another rough day tomorrow. What link do you use to get Asian market info?
Re: Chinese market getting slammed tonight -5.5% again
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:30 am
by beauanderos
theo wrote:rsk1963 wrote:and another 6% evaporates as it stands.... hold on to your trousers and restock your toilet paper.
Great. Another rough day tomorrow. What link do you use to get Asian market info?
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks/world-indexes/asia-pacific
Re: Chinese market slammed Monday night another -7.6%
Posted:
Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:34 am
by 68Camaro
Edited the title again. Looks like at least an early market dead-cat / PPT fueled bounce, with the marketeers playing each other, but who can say that the economy is healthy, in truth. Eventually it's going down more. But they will try to use a resting phase to prop it back up.
Re: Chinese market slammed Monday night another -7.6%
Posted:
Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:46 pm
by 68Camaro
And... they failed... I almost laughed when I saw the end of US trading today.
More blood tonight.
Re: Chinese market slammed Monday night another -7.6%
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:59 pm
by theo
Something strange happened at about 3:20 pm EDT. I was listening to Fox Business while driving home and the host (Liz Claman) passed on a rumor she got from a floor trader about "troop movements" in China, specifically Beijing. She later used the term "political instability" when referring to China. The steady market decline we were seeing quickly seemed to turn into to a route. I haven't heard anything about this rumor since.
Not exactly responsible reporting.
Re: Chinese market slammed Monday night another -7.6%
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:11 pm
by rsk1963
Re: Chinese market slammed Monday night another -7.6%
Posted:
Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:21 pm
by 68Camaro
OK - what is that a picture of?
Re: Chinese market slammed Monday night another -7.6%
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:44 pm
by smalltimeopn
theo wrote:Something strange happened at about 3:20 pm EDT. I was listening to Fox Business while driving home and the host (Liz Claman) passed on a rumor she got from a floor trader about "troop movements" in China, specifically Beijing. She later used the term "political instability" when referring to China. The steady market decline we were seeing quickly seemed to turn into to a route. I haven't heard anything about this rumor since.
Not exactly responsible reporting.
The World Track and Field Championships are currently taking place in Beijing. I believe they finish on August 30. I did not hear or watch the news report so I don't know if the championships have any connection.
Re: Chinese market slammed Monday night another -7.6%
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:23 pm
by rsk1963
68Camaro wrote:OK - what is that a picture of?
blood in the street
Re: Chinese market slammed Monday night another -7.6%
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:40 pm
by 68Camaro
Ah - sorry, I'm (partially) color-blind - it looked more like mud than blood at first glance, until you clarified.
Yep, blood in the street...
Re: Chinese market down Tuesday night another -1.3%
Posted:
Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:28 am
by 68Camaro
Updated title and notes - China ends down slightly and Europe not liking it at start of Wed.