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Latest poll shows 49/51 split. At that, there is no need to describe which number relates to which side of the argument. But it does make one thing perfectly clear and obvious, for one reason alone.

The Status Quo will win, so no Brexit. It is absolutely a certainty. The obvious reason is that close polling indicates a vote that is easy to steal. Yes, the tricksters can push their agenda into law by jiggling just a few votes.

We can know this is true because elections are rigged, fraudulent, and a sham. They exist to pacify the people, making them believe that they have input into their slave-masters, err... I mean government.

IdahoCopper wrote:Latest poll shows 49/51 split. At that, there is no need to describe which number relates to which side of the argument. But it does make one thing perfectly clear and obvious, for one reason alone.

The Status Quo will win, so no Brexit. It is absolutely a certainty. The obvious reason is that close polling indicates a vote that is easy to steal. Yes, the tricksters can push their agenda into law by jiggling just a few votes.

We can know this is true because elections are rigged, fraudulent, and a sham. They exist to pacify the people, making them believe that they have input into their slave-masters, err... I mean government.

sadly, you're right

final vote will be something like 55% Bremain.

Results coming in looking like Brexit could win. Still partial results so who knows, but interesting anyway. Markets reacting already.

NHsorter wrote:Results coming in looking like Brexit could win. Still partial results so who knows, but interesting anyway. Markets reacting already.

heres where im following along...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis?CMP=edit_2221

Big cities, especially London, voting to remain and the rest of the country voting to leave. It reminds me of the blue state vs red state pattern we see here in the U.S.

Goodbye EU!!!

BBC Calls it for Leave.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36615028

In other news silver is over $18.

Precious metals are up big time!!

Wow, I am pleasantly surprised!

My prediction for the Status Quo was wrong. However, my reasons we not really disproved, TPTB could have decided Brexit would make them more money, or give them more power.

The pound is down. should we buy. I suppose it will bounce back up??

IdahoCopper wrote:My prediction for the Status Quo was wrong. However, my reasons we not really disproved, TPTB could have decided Brexit would make them more money, or give them more power.

I believe that TPTB were actually 1.3million Brits who decided they didn't wish to beholden to a bunch of knuckleheads who can't control the influx of immigrants over their borders and will change the landscape of those countries in the EU, both literally and economically.

Posted this in the wrong place. Reposting here.

I was wrong on this call. Most sincerely thought the ballot box would be stuffed to prevent. Or whatever digital software fix would be used to skew the results to remain.

Looks like the Brits now have a devalued cheaper Pound and a good jump in the race to the bottom. I guess that means good for their exports. It will be interesting to see which country(s) do or cause the next significant devaluation in their currency and the time frame for it's happening. Any guesses out there?

I also feel the markets (stocks, PMs, etc.) are over reacting with a way to big knee jerk. But, this is what I consider classic unexpected chaos in what was otherwise a planned attempt at a soft(er?) landing to the global depression. Not that I'm crying over the results. Looking forward to telling my financial advisor this is exactly the kind of situation that causes PMs to be insurance (Last time we met he asked me "what I was insuring against?" with a I-don't-think-you-know-what-you-are-talking-about condesending voice).

Any thoughts on what the aftermath to all this will be?

The immediate aftermath is looking a bit like a simmering, non-military, technically legal European version of the start of the American Civil War, with a major state seceding over "states-rights" with racism replacing the related issue of slavery* as the underlying issue. There is a long process ahead but the EU doesn't seem to want to sort out. I wonder if the EU won't find some fine-print in their constitution that allows them to kick-out the UK before the normal process runs its course, and apply punitive restrictions on them as punishment. Of course the Russians will love that. The Eastern states have got to be shaking in their boots, as only Germany is left as an effective deterrent against Russia, save for independent action by the UK and US.

*(The American CIvil War - aka War of Northern Aggression - wasn't about racism, as most of even the American North was wildly racist by today's standards - especially Lincoln himself - they just didn't support slavery and especially didn't believe the South could/should secede, take their taxes and revenue with them, and determine those issues for themselves.)

" Looking forward to telling my financial advisor this is exactly the kind of situation that causes PMs to be insurance (Last time we met he asked me "what I was insuring against?" with a I-don't-think-you-know-what-you-are-talking-about condesending "

JB:
We may have the same guy. I went in with my spouse a few months ago to meet with her advisor and, when I asked him what precious metals he was invested in, he pointed to his gold Rolex and smirked. "Just this, no future in pm's".
He sent out an email the day before Britain's vote and said they fully expected them to remain and that all was good. I heard he hasn't shown up at the gym since then.

SO far Ive seen tony blair acknowledging a parliamentary petition with 3m signatures calling for a re-vote, as well as the first minister of the scottish parliment saying the scottish parliment could potentially veto it.

The vote didnt surprise me though. I also expect it to stand but there is clearly pushback so maybe not.

Was listening to the radio in my car. A financial "expert" (if he is) said that Brexit was not the only factor or even the major factor with the market. An influential financial firm in London re-adjusts its portfolio annually about this time of year. (Just caught this while changing stations. So details may be all wrong.)

This by coincidence was about the time of the Brexit vote. Tried to find more info but local talk station doesn't list the program it airs when I was listening. Later tuned in and a Ric Edelman was on. Was unable to google the info. May have been a Johnson Financial firm but my memory fails me.

This may be a case where the Brexit vote causing a financial crisis fits the narrative of TPTB.