Schwab purchase of TD Ameritrade
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:21 am
So as some of you may know, Charles Schwab has purchased online brokerage TD Ameritrade. I want to tell you of a seemingly minor change that I discovered this week that's really irking me.
The deal goes through September of this year but already TD is working some Schwab policies in. I have used TD Ameritrade for me and my wifes Roths and IRAs for 20 years. I switched to Fidelity for a bit but found that they didn't allow me to do certain things and went back to TD and am happy with everything there.
OK so what's my problem? I own a company WRB (W.R. Berkley - insurance company). Have had it for years. Has had a fantastic return for me. It pays a regular quarterly dividend which I have set up to automatically re-invest. It's a very small divi but, regular and growing (slowly). All good. But the beauty of WRB is that based on their income and float etc. they end up paying SPECIAL DIVIDENDS throughout the year. I've had years where they paid 4 special dividends. This year they paid two. In TD Ameritrade, their special dividends also automatically re-invest. And these dividends are actually meaningful, sometimes they are 4 times the size of the regular dividend. Well, WRB paid me another special dividend last week. But as of today, it still hadn't re-invested and bought me any new shares. So I called TD Ameritrade. After being transferred twice, I ended up speaking to a corporate action specialist who told me that they are now working under Charles Schwab policies and Schwab does not re-invest special dividends. Pays them out in cash. I made a point to tell them that for folks who are not retired, the only way to compound stocks is through dividend re-investment. Of course she politely thanked me for my opinion but that's how things are done. This truly irks me!!!! I have 11 years to retirement. Without digging down and doing the math, my WRB investment is not going to compound fully for me! Is there anyone out there (Recyclersteve?) who can explain why a brokerage will reinvest regular dividends but not special dividends? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Well there's my rant and my own warning to anyone else out there using TD Ameritrade (or Schwab) trying to compound their investments in insurance companies.
The deal goes through September of this year but already TD is working some Schwab policies in. I have used TD Ameritrade for me and my wifes Roths and IRAs for 20 years. I switched to Fidelity for a bit but found that they didn't allow me to do certain things and went back to TD and am happy with everything there.
OK so what's my problem? I own a company WRB (W.R. Berkley - insurance company). Have had it for years. Has had a fantastic return for me. It pays a regular quarterly dividend which I have set up to automatically re-invest. It's a very small divi but, regular and growing (slowly). All good. But the beauty of WRB is that based on their income and float etc. they end up paying SPECIAL DIVIDENDS throughout the year. I've had years where they paid 4 special dividends. This year they paid two. In TD Ameritrade, their special dividends also automatically re-invest. And these dividends are actually meaningful, sometimes they are 4 times the size of the regular dividend. Well, WRB paid me another special dividend last week. But as of today, it still hadn't re-invested and bought me any new shares. So I called TD Ameritrade. After being transferred twice, I ended up speaking to a corporate action specialist who told me that they are now working under Charles Schwab policies and Schwab does not re-invest special dividends. Pays them out in cash. I made a point to tell them that for folks who are not retired, the only way to compound stocks is through dividend re-investment. Of course she politely thanked me for my opinion but that's how things are done. This truly irks me!!!! I have 11 years to retirement. Without digging down and doing the math, my WRB investment is not going to compound fully for me! Is there anyone out there (Recyclersteve?) who can explain why a brokerage will reinvest regular dividends but not special dividends? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Well there's my rant and my own warning to anyone else out there using TD Ameritrade (or Schwab) trying to compound their investments in insurance companies.