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RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 7:49 am
by Lemon Thrower

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 9:53 am
by TXSTARFIRE
Is there a way to read this article without purchasing a subscription to the WSJ?

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 10:57 am
by pmbug

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 12:06 pm
by TXSTARFIRE
Thanks!

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 4:25 pm
by 68Camaro
His father HL was an odd bird though astute in business. Married, then had a 2nd bigamist marriage (eventually annulled after the 2nd wife found out) that created 4 more more children, and a later 3rd relationship which resulted in another four children while still married to the first wife. He married the 3rd one after the first wife died. His made his first son get a lobotomy due to "erratic" behavior, which prevented him from taking over the business. Most of his sons became independently wealthy. It was the last son, a bastard, though he eventually married the mother, who took over Hunt Oil. Son Bunker discovered and had the rights to the Libyan oil reserves until Khaddafy nationalized them.

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 9:37 pm
by Recyclersteve
68Camaro wrote:His father HL was an odd bird though astute in business. Married, then had a 2nd bigamist marriage (eventually annulled after the 2nd wife found out) that created 4 more more children, and a later 3rd relationship which resulted in another four children while still married to the first wife. He married the 3rd one after the first wife died. His made his first son get a lobotomy due to "erratic" behavior, which prevented him from taking over the business. Most of his sons became independently wealthy. It was the last son, a bastard, though he eventually married the mother, who took over Hunt Oil. Son Bunker discovered and had the rights to the Libyan oil reserves until Khaddafy nationalized them.



What’s so odd about any of that? Just kidding of course.

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 10:23 pm
by Recyclersteve
Actually, I do have a real story about this.

In early 1980 with silver very near the peak I was watching it VERY CLOSELY because the price action was just incredible. And that was WAY BEFORE the days of the internet and the ability to trade the silver exchange traded fund (symbol SLV) in the stock market.

Anyhow, I had just started my very first job out of college and realized I’d need to buy 5-6 suits with ties, shirts and shoes for my new job. Back then a 3-piece suit (with vest) was quite fashionable.

I was talking with my brother about selling and we debated the pros and cons for about an hour. I was separating my junk silver from the better date stuff as we were talking. I finally told my brother (pretty sure it was a Saturday) that I was going with him or without him. He finally decided to take silver to sell as well.

We got to the shop and there was an armed guard out front, the first and only time I saw that. Inside the place was packed. They had two large safes about the size of refrigerators. Both were full and he had bags of silver on the back counter that were about 40-50 feet long.

He shouted out to the crowd “That’s all. I’m not buying anymore.” I politely protested and reminded him that I used to clean his toilets, which was true. He then said “Ok, you two boys and that’s it. I’m not buying any more after that.”

The money was what I needed to buy my new wardrobe and I sold within about 1% or so of the $50+ high!

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2024 7:39 am
by pmbug
This was from a couple of months ago:

]The story of the Hunt brothers and their attempt to corner the silver market is a classic example of speculative investment and market manipulation on a grand scale. The Hunt brothers, Herbert and Nelson "Bunker" Hunt, heirs to an oil fortune, embarked on a bold strategy in the late 1970s. Their belief in inevitable inflation and the subsequent devaluation of paper currency led them to silver, a precious metal they viewed as a safeguard against economic instability.

Peter Thomas was present on the trading floor during this period and shares his account of the events.



Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2024 7:26 pm
by JerrySpringer
Recyclersteve wrote:In early 1980 with silver very near the peak I was watching it VERY CLOSELY because the price action was just incredible. And that was WAY BEFORE the days of the internet and the ability to trade the silver exchange traded fund (symbol SLV) in the stock market.



I kind of know where I was or what I was doing those early January days of 1980. We were in middle school and go to the train tracks and have a trashcan fire going and drink beers. Totally oblivious to silver, gold, stocks, Wall Street, etc. I think a $20 bill seemed like a lot of money to me back then too.

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:36 am
by Treetop
JerrySpringer wrote:
Recyclersteve wrote:In early 1980 with silver very near the peak I was watching it VERY CLOSELY because the price action was just incredible. And that was WAY BEFORE the days of the internet and the ability to trade the silver exchange traded fund (symbol SLV) in the stock market.



I kind of know where I was or what I was doing those early January days of 1980. We were in middle school and go to the train tracks and have a trashcan fire going and drink beers. Totally oblivious to silver, gold, stocks, Wall Street, etc. I think a $20 bill seemed like a lot of money to me back then too.



lol I know where I was also. I was about three months old. I dont remember thinking of silver or gold at that age but maybe I liked shiny things like a bird.

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2024 4:47 pm
by JerrySpringer
Treetop wrote:
JerrySpringer wrote:
Recyclersteve wrote:In early 1980 with silver very near the peak I was watching it VERY CLOSELY because the price action was just incredible. And that was WAY BEFORE the days of the internet and the ability to trade the silver exchange traded fund (symbol SLV) in the stock market.



I kind of know where I was or what I was doing those early January days of 1980. We were in middle school and go to the train tracks and have a trashcan fire going and drink beers. Totally oblivious to silver, gold, stocks, Wall Street, etc. I think a $20 bill seemed like a lot of money to me back then too.



lol I know where I was also. I was about three months old. I dont remember thinking of silver or gold at that age but maybe I liked shiny things like a bird.


A few years later I was in high school chemistry class and the teacher did a redux reaction with silver nitrate and a copper piece. I remember seeing the silver whiskers in the bottom of the flask and thinking they must have some value. Same class we stole the magnesium ribbon from to do pyro stuff with, lol. Took about another 24 years before I really started thinking about buying silver or coin rolling searching. Missed the 1990's and the gimme of all the silver sitting in coin rolls everywhere nobody really cared about as dotcom stocks were the Gamestop then.

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 7:07 am
by Tourney64
What the Hunt Brothers did, really changed my life. I sold all my silver coins for $500. I used the money to buy an Atari computer with an Atari Basic Language cartridge. My wife was furious that I sold the silver that I had accumulated before we were married. I taught myself the computer programming language of Basic. I used the computer to manage our 24 team bowling league, making $400/year for 4 years. The knowledge I had in Basic language helped me in my accounting job, helped me get a side gig, which paid me $5,000, at the Champaign Country Club. Helped me create Tourney64, which was a college basketball tournament manager. I made $10,000 doing that, until it got too big and I had to end it or quit my real job.

Thank you, Hunt Brothers.

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 10:36 am
by Lemon Thrower
Interesting story 64.

I was in 5th or 6th grade back then. I bought a 64 proof set at my first coin show for $20. I went back a month later and the dealer offered me double for it.

I held my silver until college and then sold it a huge loss to pay my fraternity dues. But I learned that markets are manipulated and the dollar is flimsy. All of this led to my investment success later in life.

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 12:20 pm
by Recyclersteve
Lemon Thrower wrote:Interesting story 64.

I was in 5th or 6th grade back then. I bought a 64 proof set at my first coin show for $20. I went back a month later and the dealer offered me double for it.

I held my silver until college and then sold it a huge loss to pay my fraternity dues. But I learned that markets are manipulated and the dollar is flimsy. All of this led to my investment success later in life.


That is truly wild!

Re: RIP Herbert Hunt

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2024 3:32 pm
by Lemon Thrower
Recyclersteve wrote:
Lemon Thrower wrote:Interesting story 64.

I was in 5th or 6th grade back then. I bought a 64 proof set at my first coin show for $20. I went back a month later and the dealer offered me double for it.

I held my silver until college and then sold it a huge loss to pay my fraternity dues. But I learned that markets are manipulated and the dollar is flimsy. All of this led to my investment success later in life.


That is truly wild!


Yeah I think you learn more from mistakes than from success.