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HONEY!

Postby Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:07 pm

RAW HONEY IS NOW $20 PER QUART IN MY CITY!!!! :o :shock:

A pint is $12.00.

The man selling his raw honey said it was because of too many environmental pressures on honey bees. The majority are dead now. He listed too many pests for me to list here.

Colony collapse disorder
Predatory moths
Predatory mites
Insecticides
Urbanization
Climate change
Africanized Bees

What are the prices of honey in your city? :?:
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Kurr » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:17 pm

$16 for a 2lb bottle is what we get raw honey for, filtered no comb.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby shinnosuke » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:55 pm

Recently, on a visit to my dad just outside of Houston, I bought a quart of some local honey for $15.

My grandfather was a beekeeper until he passed away. I used to help him in the spring when they swarmed and later when he robbed the hives. Good memories. Honey was essentially free then. We didn't wear protective clothing at all. Got stung almost everytime, but I still like honey.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:59 am

When I finally get that acreage I have always wanted, I am starting some hives of my own. :thumbup:
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Re: HONEY!

Postby knibloe » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:04 pm

How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby shinnosuke » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:19 pm

knibloe wrote:How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.


The weight of honey does not compute. How many ounces is that? What color is your honey (the stuff made by your bees, not your wife)? What is the main source of pollen for your bees?
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Re: HONEY!

Postby NHsorter » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:33 pm

I have always thought it would be cool to get some bees. I have plenty of space. The whole area around me is wooded. Mix of pine and hardwood. How much should it cost for a respectable setup? How much time is involved? I am looking for maximum profit with minimal effort :lol:
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Re: HONEY!

Postby 68Camaro » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:14 pm

shinnosuke wrote:
knibloe wrote:How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.


The weight of honey does not compute. How many ounces is that? What color is your honey (the stuff made by your bees, not your wife)? What is the main source of pollen for your bees?


According to the Bee Honey unit conversion calculator (before you laugh, there actually is such a thing - see below) 2 pounds of honey is just over 21 fluid ounces.

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Re: HONEY!

Postby mbailey1234 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:36 pm

Just bought several 24 oz containers at Wally World before Thanksgiving to brine turkeys in for like $5.19 each.

Local organic is about 3x that price.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby shinnosuke » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:04 pm

68Camaro wrote:
shinnosuke wrote:
knibloe wrote:How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.


The weight of honey does not compute. How many ounces is that? What color is your honey (the stuff made by your bees, not your wife)? What is the main source of pollen for your bees?


According to the Bee Honey unit conversion calculator (before you laugh, there actually is such a thing - see below) 2 pounds of honey is just over 21 fluid ounces.

http://www.traditionaloven.com/conversi ... ments.html


Cool. Thanks!
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Re: HONEY!

Postby knibloe » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:03 pm

shinnosuke wrote:
knibloe wrote:How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.


The weight of honey does not compute. How many ounces is that? What color is your honey (the stuff made by your bees, not your wife)? What is the main source of pollen for your bees?


Honey is sold by weight not volume. But the calculation listed below is correct. My honey varies in color. This year it is fairly dark. last year it was very light. The main sources of nectar for the honey that I extract are the late summer (clover) and fall flowers (Goldenrod, Aster and this year bamboo).The bamboo is what gave it the darker color this year. The aster is very prone to crystalization. However, it is a ver fine crystal. That is what I use to make my creamed honey.

Pollen is a different story. I have been thinking about collecting pollen from my bees for the last couple of years, but have not done it yet.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:28 pm

Okay, I am learning some things here. How many pounds are normally in a quart?
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Engineer » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:15 am

Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay wrote:Okay, I am learning some things here. How many pounds are normally in a quart?


The density of honey is 1.36g/cc.

That would translate to 2.84 pounds/quart.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby shinnosuke » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:15 am

Engineer wrote:
Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay wrote:Okay, I am learning some things here. How many pounds are normally in a quart?


The density of honey is 1.36g/cc.

That would translate to 2.84 pounds/quart.


Alright then, what is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow searching for honeybees?

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Re: HONEY!

Postby Engineer » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:48 am

shinnosuke wrote:Alright then, what is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow searching for honeybees?

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What do you mean? An African swallow, or a European swallow? (Tosses shinnosuke off the bridge) :mrgreen:

11 meters per second. (Yep...I really was anal enough to look that up :roll: )

Now for the important question of the night:

The motion of silver is affected by magnetic fields, so does that mean it'll heat up on an induction cooktop?

I ask for sciencey reasons, and don't tell my wife that I'm plotting kitchen chemistry experiments again. She's still upset about the time I took the weight off her pressure cooker while it was full of chili. :shock:

It made a wonderful, glorious mess! :mrgreen:
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Mossy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:26 pm

mbailey1234 wrote:Just bought several 24 oz containers at Wally World before Thanksgiving to brine turkeys in for like $5.19 each.

Check the ingredients. It may not be all honey.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby shinnosuke » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:45 pm

Engineer wrote:
shinnosuke wrote:Alright then, what is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow searching for honeybees?

swallow.png


What do you mean? An African swallow, or a European swallow? (Tosses shinnosuke off the bridge) :mrgreen:

11 meters per second. (Yep...I really was anal enough to look that up :roll: )

Now for the important question of the night:

The motion of silver is affected by magnetic fields, so does that mean it'll heat up on an induction cooktop?

I ask for sciencey reasons, and don't tell my wife that I'm plotting kitchen chemistry experiments again. She's still upset about the time I took the weight off her pressure cooker while it was full of chili. :shock:

It made a wonderful, glorious mess! :mrgreen:


I guess you're going to have to answer your own question. Me and science don't get along so I have no idea.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby justoneguy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:15 pm

NHsorter wrote:I have always thought it would be cool to get some bees. I have plenty of space. The whole area around me is wooded. Mix of pine and hardwood. How much should it cost for a respectable setup? How much time is involved? I am looking for maximum profit with minimal effort :lol:


My 2 brothers and I, each kicked in $100 [$300 total] for my sister to buy a hive this spring.
she had to go out and capture [relocate] her own bees.
I'll have to ask her how much honey she gets
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Re: HONEY!

Postby knibloe » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:25 pm

justoneguy wrote:
NHsorter wrote:I have always thought it would be cool to get some bees. I have plenty of space. The whole area around me is wooded. Mix of pine and hardwood. How much should it cost for a respectable setup? How much time is involved? I am looking for maximum profit with minimal effort :lol:


My 2 brothers and I, each kicked in $100 [$300 total] for my sister to buy a hive this spring.
she had to go out and capture [relocate] her own bees.
I'll have to ask her how much honey she gets


My recommendation is to start with at least two hives.
1. It doesn't take any more time to care for two as it does one.
2. If you lose a hive, you can split the remaining hive in the spring to have two hive again.
3. If you lose the queen in one hive as I did one time (accidentally squished her when trying to remove her from the hive to take her to show and tell at my sons school). You can take brood out of the second hive, out it in with the workers from the queenless hive and they will raise a new queen.

In regards to honey weight vs volume, I figure that there are 11.5 pounds in a gallon. That works out to 2.8# per quart. If the customer provides the jar, i sell it for $35 per gallon. I average 50-70# per hive per year.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Lemon Thrower » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:29 am

Engineer wrote:
shinnosuke wrote:
11 meters per second. (Yep...I really was anal enough to look that up :roll: )



African or European?
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Postby Engineer » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:19 am

European. :oops:
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Rob72830 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:00 am

About 4 months ago I bought some locally for $13 a quart jar.
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Nickelless » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:16 pm

A local-based grocer has "pure unheated" clover honey from a local producer for $55 for a 12-pound container. It doesn't say it's organic. How does that price compare to other parts of the country? (I'm in the Midwest.)
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Re: HONEY!

Postby knibloe » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:08 pm

Nickelless wrote:A local-based grocer has "pure unheated" clover honey from a local producer for $55 for a 12-pound container. It doesn't say it's organic. How does that price compare to other parts of the country? (I'm in the Midwest.)


That sounds high. 12# is a little more than a gallon. I sell a gallon for $35
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Re: HONEY!

Postby Nickelless » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:19 am

knibloe wrote:
Nickelless wrote:A local-based grocer has "pure unheated" clover honey from a local producer for $55 for a 12-pound container. It doesn't say it's organic. How does that price compare to other parts of the country? (I'm in the Midwest.)


That sounds high. 12# is a little more than a gallon. I sell a gallon for $35


$55 is the price at the grocery store, not the price directly from the producer. I'll see what price the producer charges for direct purchase.
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