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HONEY!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:07 pm
by Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay
RAW HONEY IS NOW $20 PER QUART IN MY CITY!!!! :o :shock:

A pint is $12.00.

The man selling his raw honey said it was because of too many environmental pressures on honey bees. The majority are dead now. He listed too many pests for me to list here.

Colony collapse disorder
Predatory moths
Predatory mites
Insecticides
Urbanization
Climate change
Africanized Bees

What are the prices of honey in your city? :?:

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:17 pm
by Kurr
$16 for a 2lb bottle is what we get raw honey for, filtered no comb.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:55 pm
by shinnosuke
Recently, on a visit to my dad just outside of Houston, I bought a quart of some local honey for $15.

My grandfather was a beekeeper until he passed away. I used to help him in the spring when they swarmed and later when he robbed the hives. Good memories. Honey was essentially free then. We didn't wear protective clothing at all. Got stung almost everytime, but I still like honey.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:59 am
by Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay
When I finally get that acreage I have always wanted, I am starting some hives of my own. :thumbup:

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:04 pm
by knibloe
How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:19 pm
by shinnosuke
knibloe wrote:How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.


The weight of honey does not compute. How many ounces is that? What color is your honey (the stuff made by your bees, not your wife)? What is the main source of pollen for your bees?

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:33 pm
by NHsorter
I have always thought it would be cool to get some bees. I have plenty of space. The whole area around me is wooded. Mix of pine and hardwood. How much should it cost for a respectable setup? How much time is involved? I am looking for maximum profit with minimal effort :lol:

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:14 pm
by 68Camaro
shinnosuke wrote:
knibloe wrote:How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.


The weight of honey does not compute. How many ounces is that? What color is your honey (the stuff made by your bees, not your wife)? What is the main source of pollen for your bees?


According to the Bee Honey unit conversion calculator (before you laugh, there actually is such a thing - see below) 2 pounds of honey is just over 21 fluid ounces.

http://www.traditionaloven.com/conversi ... ments.html

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:36 pm
by mbailey1234
Just bought several 24 oz containers at Wally World before Thanksgiving to brine turkeys in for like $5.19 each.

Local organic is about 3x that price.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:04 pm
by shinnosuke
68Camaro wrote:
shinnosuke wrote:
knibloe wrote:How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.


The weight of honey does not compute. How many ounces is that? What color is your honey (the stuff made by your bees, not your wife)? What is the main source of pollen for your bees?


According to the Bee Honey unit conversion calculator (before you laugh, there actually is such a thing - see below) 2 pounds of honey is just over 21 fluid ounces.

http://www.traditionaloven.com/conversi ... ments.html


Cool. Thanks!

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:03 pm
by knibloe
shinnosuke wrote:
knibloe wrote:How much do you guys want?? We sell a 2# jar for $9.00

It isn't "organic", but I don't use any chemicals on my bees. I am not big enough to mess around with certification and I see what a game it is with the other farms I work on.


The weight of honey does not compute. How many ounces is that? What color is your honey (the stuff made by your bees, not your wife)? What is the main source of pollen for your bees?


Honey is sold by weight not volume. But the calculation listed below is correct. My honey varies in color. This year it is fairly dark. last year it was very light. The main sources of nectar for the honey that I extract are the late summer (clover) and fall flowers (Goldenrod, Aster and this year bamboo).The bamboo is what gave it the darker color this year. The aster is very prone to crystalization. However, it is a ver fine crystal. That is what I use to make my creamed honey.

Pollen is a different story. I have been thinking about collecting pollen from my bees for the last couple of years, but have not done it yet.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:28 pm
by Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay
Okay, I am learning some things here. How many pounds are normally in a quart?

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:15 am
by Engineer
Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay wrote:Okay, I am learning some things here. How many pounds are normally in a quart?


The density of honey is 1.36g/cc.

That would translate to 2.84 pounds/quart.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:15 am
by shinnosuke
Engineer wrote:
Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay wrote:Okay, I am learning some things here. How many pounds are normally in a quart?


The density of honey is 1.36g/cc.

That would translate to 2.84 pounds/quart.


Alright then, what is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow searching for honeybees?

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Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:48 am
by Engineer
shinnosuke wrote:Alright then, what is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow searching for honeybees?

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What do you mean? An African swallow, or a European swallow? (Tosses shinnosuke off the bridge) :mrgreen:

11 meters per second. (Yep...I really was anal enough to look that up :roll: )

Now for the important question of the night:

The motion of silver is affected by magnetic fields, so does that mean it'll heat up on an induction cooktop?

I ask for sciencey reasons, and don't tell my wife that I'm plotting kitchen chemistry experiments again. She's still upset about the time I took the weight off her pressure cooker while it was full of chili. :shock:

It made a wonderful, glorious mess! :mrgreen:

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:26 pm
by Mossy
mbailey1234 wrote:Just bought several 24 oz containers at Wally World before Thanksgiving to brine turkeys in for like $5.19 each.

Check the ingredients. It may not be all honey.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:45 pm
by shinnosuke
Engineer wrote:
shinnosuke wrote:Alright then, what is the flight velocity of an unladen swallow searching for honeybees?

swallow.png


What do you mean? An African swallow, or a European swallow? (Tosses shinnosuke off the bridge) :mrgreen:

11 meters per second. (Yep...I really was anal enough to look that up :roll: )

Now for the important question of the night:

The motion of silver is affected by magnetic fields, so does that mean it'll heat up on an induction cooktop?

I ask for sciencey reasons, and don't tell my wife that I'm plotting kitchen chemistry experiments again. She's still upset about the time I took the weight off her pressure cooker while it was full of chili. :shock:

It made a wonderful, glorious mess! :mrgreen:


I guess you're going to have to answer your own question. Me and science don't get along so I have no idea.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:15 pm
by justoneguy
NHsorter wrote:I have always thought it would be cool to get some bees. I have plenty of space. The whole area around me is wooded. Mix of pine and hardwood. How much should it cost for a respectable setup? How much time is involved? I am looking for maximum profit with minimal effort :lol:


My 2 brothers and I, each kicked in $100 [$300 total] for my sister to buy a hive this spring.
she had to go out and capture [relocate] her own bees.
I'll have to ask her how much honey she gets

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:25 pm
by knibloe
justoneguy wrote:
NHsorter wrote:I have always thought it would be cool to get some bees. I have plenty of space. The whole area around me is wooded. Mix of pine and hardwood. How much should it cost for a respectable setup? How much time is involved? I am looking for maximum profit with minimal effort :lol:


My 2 brothers and I, each kicked in $100 [$300 total] for my sister to buy a hive this spring.
she had to go out and capture [relocate] her own bees.
I'll have to ask her how much honey she gets


My recommendation is to start with at least two hives.
1. It doesn't take any more time to care for two as it does one.
2. If you lose a hive, you can split the remaining hive in the spring to have two hive again.
3. If you lose the queen in one hive as I did one time (accidentally squished her when trying to remove her from the hive to take her to show and tell at my sons school). You can take brood out of the second hive, out it in with the workers from the queenless hive and they will raise a new queen.

In regards to honey weight vs volume, I figure that there are 11.5 pounds in a gallon. That works out to 2.8# per quart. If the customer provides the jar, i sell it for $35 per gallon. I average 50-70# per hive per year.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:29 am
by Lemon Thrower
Engineer wrote:
shinnosuke wrote:
11 meters per second. (Yep...I really was anal enough to look that up :roll: )



African or European?

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:19 am
by Engineer
European. :oops:

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:00 am
by Rob72830
About 4 months ago I bought some locally for $13 a quart jar.

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:16 pm
by Nickelless
A local-based grocer has "pure unheated" clover honey from a local producer for $55 for a 12-pound container. It doesn't say it's organic. How does that price compare to other parts of the country? (I'm in the Midwest.)

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:08 pm
by knibloe
Nickelless wrote:A local-based grocer has "pure unheated" clover honey from a local producer for $55 for a 12-pound container. It doesn't say it's organic. How does that price compare to other parts of the country? (I'm in the Midwest.)


That sounds high. 12# is a little more than a gallon. I sell a gallon for $35

Re: HONEY!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:19 am
by Nickelless
knibloe wrote:
Nickelless wrote:A local-based grocer has "pure unheated" clover honey from a local producer for $55 for a 12-pound container. It doesn't say it's organic. How does that price compare to other parts of the country? (I'm in the Midwest.)


That sounds high. 12# is a little more than a gallon. I sell a gallon for $35


$55 is the price at the grocery store, not the price directly from the producer. I'll see what price the producer charges for direct purchase.