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verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby camtender » Tue May 08, 2012 4:08 pm

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1720171

Abstract

The perceived and actual value of the United States one cent coin ("penny" hereafter) are compared. The comparison determines whether the energy and time expended result in a net gain or net loss to a test subject encountering a penny which has left circulation and settled in a lower energy state. Obverse/reverse influence on perceived value is examined, and a standard for evaluating the caloric cost of the retrieval is established. High variability of contributing factors led to the creation of guidelines for establishing the expected profit of the sidewalk-to-pocket transaction.

Introduction

The United States of America has circulated a small-denomination coin called the "penny" since 1793. The vast majority of pennies are worth one one-hundredth of a dollar, or one "cent". In 2003-2005, the United States Mint produced approximately 1.1 trillion pennies, so the occurrence of anomalous pennies, while driving up the value of the individual anomalous penny, is insignificant when calculating the average value of a penny. This study examines any legal tender penny, and assumes all pennies are worth $0.01.

A penny's immediate value, for reasons discussed above, is one hundredth of a U.S. Dollar. However, half of the pennies encountered (on average) will have their obverse exposed and their reverse concealed -- this is colloquially known as being in a "heads up" state because the silhouette engraving of Abraham Lincoln is visible. These pennies are anecdotally connected to varying amounts of monetary gain, and are said to exert an anomalous influence on local statistical rates of success in situations where probability would otherwise be against the subject. Further research will need to be conducted to determine if this affects the value of the penny. For purposes of this paper, we will only be examining pennies which are "tails up", or "heads up" and assumed to be luck-neutral or better. Since the aim of this study is to incentivize penny retrieval only when it is already profitable, we assume that all pennies picked up have an intrinsic value of at least one one-hundredth of a U.S. Dollar.

The energy expended in bending down to pick up a penny will be calculated and converted to a monetary cost. The time taken to pick up a penny is measured and converted to a monetary cost. These costs are summed and compared to the expected financial gain of the action.

Materials and Methods

A group of ten pennies were dropped on a thin-pile carpeted floor. The pennies were dated as follows: 1968, 1969, 1970, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2001. The time required to pick up the pennies from a standing position was recorded. Each penny required no more than three seconds to pick up.

A model for the energy expended picking up the pennies was established. Isaac Newton's laws of motion give a widely-accepted formula for the work (energy) required to move a mass up a given distance:

E = mgh

where "m" is the mass of the object in kilograms, g is the acceleration of gravity (vector quantity, assumed to point straight down), and "h" is the distance (parallel to gravity) that the object must be moved. The mass of a penny has varied historically, but is dwarfed by the fluctuations in mass of the test subject, who must bend over to pick up the penny, and who must raise himself back up to the standing position. Statistical and census data were consulted to determine the average height and mass of a human; the reader is welcome to substitute his or her mass and height. The subject is otherwise assumed to be 1.8m tall and 80kg in mass. Bending from the waist requires moving half of the human body (cf. Da Vinci's "Vitruvian Man"), and assuming a nearly-equal mass distribution, this requires moving half of the body's mass from .75h to a height of .50h. Thus in the above formula, we have:

E = 40kg x 9.8m/s2 x 0.45m = 176 J or .00421 calories

It remains now only to convert both the caloric cost and time cost into monetary units. First the issue of calories is addressed. Calories can be purchased for wildly varying amounts, based on the perceived pleasure one gains from ingesting the calories. Maine lobster and a McDonald's hamburger were compared to arrive at rational maximum and minimum caloric costs. A 3.5oz serving of Maine Lobster tail contains 98 calories and can be purchased for $16.95, resulting in a cost-per-calorie of $0.173; a 3.7oz McDonald's hamburger (with standard toppings) contains 260 calories and costs $0.59, resulting in a cost-per-calorie of $.0023/calorie. If the test subject has eaten lobster recently, then his or her calories are worth almost seventeen cents each, and so the financial cost of bending down is $0.00729, or 73 hundredths of a cent, yielding an expected gain of 27 hundredths of a cent. At the low end, the subject has even more incentive to pick up the penny; the cost is only $9.69X10-5, resulting in almost pure profit from picking up the penny.

Now the issue of the time cost of money (where applicable) is addressed. The median income of a male full-time year-round worker is $40,688 (2003 figures - the reader is welcome to insert his or her annual income instead). Assuming 50 weeks of work and approximately 40 hours of work per week, we arrive at an average hourly wage of $20.34. The three seconds required to pick up a penny -- assuming that one would otherwise be compensated for one's time -- cost the working test subject $0.01695, or 1.7 cents. A test subject walking back to work from lunch should therefore not bend down to pick up the penny unless he or she is paid $11.88/hr or less.

A person's "free time" has no expected gain -- and in fact, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there is often an expected cost. A single-person consumer unit expends, on average, $27,042 annually (2002 figures). We assumed earlier that a person works 2,000 hours in a year. This leaves 6,766 hours of time, throughout which one is spending an average of $3.99/hr, or $0.0011/second. During one's free time, then, the profit from picking up a penny actually defers some of the costs of living (for example, the cost of eating that Maine Lobster), to the tune of $0.0133 for each penny picked up.

Results
Expected Gain from Picking Up A Penny

PROFITS
=======
monetary value: $0.0100
time value : $0.0033 (assumes penny discovered in free time)
SUBTOTAL: $0.0133

LOSSES
======
caloric value : -$0.00729 (maximum - assumes Lobster dinner)
lost wages : -$0.01695 (assumes penny discovered during work)
SUBTOTAL: -$0.02424

EXPECTED GAIN
=============
AT WORK : -$0.01424
AT LEISURE : +$0.00601

A general function for one's expected gain from a penny is presented below:
Profit = $0.01 + (Annual Expenditures)/(1200 * Leisure Hours)
- (Cost of last Meal)*(.0029155 x Mass x Height)/(Calories in last meal)
- (Annual Income)/(1200 * Work Hours)

NOTE: The reader is advised to perform this calculation during leisure hours, where, if it takes one minute, can result in a leisure-time savings of $0.067, with proportional gains with longer calculations.

Conclusion

The United States one cent coin offers a strong picking-up incentive to the intelligent leisure-seeker, who can defer his normal cost-rate-of-leisure by stooping to bring a penny up from the sidewalk. Workers who would otherwise be paid for their time lose a quantifiable but minimal amount of money in the effort, and are encouraged to leave the penny until they are no longer being paid for their time. The time required to calculate an individual's expected profit function can offset losses from accidentally retrieving two pennies, provided it is calculated during leisure hours. The effects of obverse/reverse mechanics on localized probability have not been measured but may have significant influence on the total expected gain from retrieval of a penny.
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby SilverDragon72 » Tue May 08, 2012 9:17 pm

camtender wrote:http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1720171

Abstract

The perceived and actual value of the United States one cent coin ("penny" hereafter) are compared. The comparison determines whether the energy and time expended result in a net gain or net loss to a test subject encountering a penny which has left circulation and settled in a lower energy state. Obverse/reverse influence on perceived value is examined, and a standard for evaluating the caloric cost of the retrieval is established. High variability of contributing factors led to the creation of guidelines for establishing the expected profit of the sidewalk-to-pocket transaction.

Introduction

The United States of America has circulated a small-denomination coin called the "penny" since 1793. The vast majority of pennies are worth one one-hundredth of a dollar, or one "cent". In 2003-2005, the United States Mint produced approximately 1.1 trillion pennies, so the occurrence of anomalous pennies, while driving up the value of the individual anomalous penny, is insignificant when calculating the average value of a penny. This study examines any legal tender penny, and assumes all pennies are worth $0.01.

A penny's immediate value, for reasons discussed above, is one hundredth of a U.S. Dollar. However, half of the pennies encountered (on average) will have their obverse exposed and their reverse concealed -- this is colloquially known as being in a "heads up" state because the silhouette engraving of Abraham Lincoln is visible. These pennies are anecdotally connected to varying amounts of monetary gain, and are said to exert an anomalous influence on local statistical rates of success in situations where probability would otherwise be against the subject. Further research will need to be conducted to determine if this affects the value of the penny. For purposes of this paper, we will only be examining pennies which are "tails up", or "heads up" and assumed to be luck-neutral or better. Since the aim of this study is to incentivize penny retrieval only when it is already profitable, we assume that all pennies picked up have an intrinsic value of at least one one-hundredth of a U.S. Dollar.

The energy expended in bending down to pick up a penny will be calculated and converted to a monetary cost. The time taken to pick up a penny is measured and converted to a monetary cost. These costs are summed and compared to the expected financial gain of the action.

Materials and Methods

A group of ten pennies were dropped on a thin-pile carpeted floor. The pennies were dated as follows: 1968, 1969, 1970, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2001. The time required to pick up the pennies from a standing position was recorded. Each penny required no more than three seconds to pick up.

A model for the energy expended picking up the pennies was established. Isaac Newton's laws of motion give a widely-accepted formula for the work (energy) required to move a mass up a given distance:

E = mgh

where "m" is the mass of the object in kilograms, g is the acceleration of gravity (vector quantity, assumed to point straight down), and "h" is the distance (parallel to gravity) that the object must be moved. The mass of a penny has varied historically, but is dwarfed by the fluctuations in mass of the test subject, who must bend over to pick up the penny, and who must raise himself back up to the standing position. Statistical and census data were consulted to determine the average height and mass of a human; the reader is welcome to substitute his or her mass and height. The subject is otherwise assumed to be 1.8m tall and 80kg in mass. Bending from the waist requires moving half of the human body (cf. Da Vinci's "Vitruvian Man"), and assuming a nearly-equal mass distribution, this requires moving half of the body's mass from .75h to a height of .50h. Thus in the above formula, we have:

E = 40kg x 9.8m/s2 x 0.45m = 176 J or .00421 calories

It remains now only to convert both the caloric cost and time cost into monetary units. First the issue of calories is addressed. Calories can be purchased for wildly varying amounts, based on the perceived pleasure one gains from ingesting the calories. Maine lobster and a McDonald's hamburger were compared to arrive at rational maximum and minimum caloric costs. A 3.5oz serving of Maine Lobster tail contains 98 calories and can be purchased for $16.95, resulting in a cost-per-calorie of $0.173; a 3.7oz McDonald's hamburger (with standard toppings) contains 260 calories and costs $0.59, resulting in a cost-per-calorie of $.0023/calorie. If the test subject has eaten lobster recently, then his or her calories are worth almost seventeen cents each, and so the financial cost of bending down is $0.00729, or 73 hundredths of a cent, yielding an expected gain of 27 hundredths of a cent. At the low end, the subject has even more incentive to pick up the penny; the cost is only $9.69X10-5, resulting in almost pure profit from picking up the penny.

Now the issue of the time cost of money (where applicable) is addressed. The median income of a male full-time year-round worker is $40,688 (2003 figures - the reader is welcome to insert his or her annual income instead). Assuming 50 weeks of work and approximately 40 hours of work per week, we arrive at an average hourly wage of $20.34. The three seconds required to pick up a penny -- assuming that one would otherwise be compensated for one's time -- cost the working test subject $0.01695, or 1.7 cents. A test subject walking back to work from lunch should therefore not bend down to pick up the penny unless he or she is paid $11.88/hr or less.

A person's "free time" has no expected gain -- and in fact, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there is often an expected cost. A single-person consumer unit expends, on average, $27,042 annually (2002 figures). We assumed earlier that a person works 2,000 hours in a year. This leaves 6,766 hours of time, throughout which one is spending an average of $3.99/hr, or $0.0011/second. During one's free time, then, the profit from picking up a penny actually defers some of the costs of living (for example, the cost of eating that Maine Lobster), to the tune of $0.0133 for each penny picked up.

Results
Expected Gain from Picking Up A Penny

PROFITS
=======
monetary value: $0.0100
time value : $0.0033 (assumes penny discovered in free time)
SUBTOTAL: $0.0133

LOSSES
======
caloric value : -$0.00729 (maximum - assumes Lobster dinner)
lost wages : -$0.01695 (assumes penny discovered during work)
SUBTOTAL: -$0.02424

EXPECTED GAIN
=============
AT WORK : -$0.01424
AT LEISURE : +$0.00601

A general function for one's expected gain from a penny is presented below:
Profit = $0.01 + (Annual Expenditures)/(1200 * Leisure Hours)
- (Cost of last Meal)*(.0029155 x Mass x Height)/(Calories in last meal)
- (Annual Income)/(1200 * Work Hours)

NOTE: The reader is advised to perform this calculation during leisure hours, where, if it takes one minute, can result in a leisure-time savings of $0.067, with proportional gains with longer calculations.

Conclusion

The United States one cent coin offers a strong picking-up incentive to the intelligent leisure-seeker, who can defer his normal cost-rate-of-leisure by stooping to bring a penny up from the sidewalk. Workers who would otherwise be paid for their time lose a quantifiable but minimal amount of money in the effort, and are encouraged to leave the penny until they are no longer being paid for their time. The time required to calculate an individual's expected profit function can offset losses from accidentally retrieving two pennies, provided it is calculated during leisure hours. The effects of obverse/reverse mechanics on localized probability have not been measured but may have significant influence on the total expected gain from retrieval of a penny.



Ok. Now my head hurts from all that math....although it's an interesting way to look at the value of a penny!
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby tinhorn » Tue May 08, 2012 10:24 pm

Well, it's good luck to pick up a penny. I didn't see ANY value assigned to increased luck as a result of picking up a penny.
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby BamaJoe » Tue May 08, 2012 10:27 pm

Somebody has WAY too much time on there hands.
If you are waiting for the "correction" to buy you need to realize that the increasing prices ARE the correction.


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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby RichardPenny43 » Tue May 08, 2012 11:20 pm

So picking up a penny is a waste of time? How much time was wasted researching and writing that, and then me reading it, me posting a comment, and now you reading this? :roll:
There are some funny stories on that site though.
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby m21221 » Wed May 09, 2012 5:29 am

I pick up 25,000 at time, takes me about 10 minutes!
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby reddirtcoins » Wed May 09, 2012 6:23 am

Which is why you'll see my daughter and I diving for them. Just the other day we left our grocery cart rolling while we both fought for the penny under the bench inside of the grocery store... lol
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby HoardCopperByTheTon » Sun May 13, 2012 1:06 pm

That's why I pick up 60,000 at a time.. much more efficient. But I am always willing to take the loss to pick up singles (even zinc.. though I can usually tell whether it is copper or zinc before bending) to add to the hoard. :mrgreen:
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby frugalcanuck » Sun May 13, 2012 3:44 pm

Doesnt take into account most people in north america would benefit from burning a few more calories. When I was a tree planter I told non-planters it is comparable to picking up a dime every two steps. Many thought it was a hard way to make money.
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby fansubs_ca » Thu May 17, 2012 4:06 am

Reminds me of the time I stepped into a local (downtown) mall and saw a bunch of
pennies (about 30 of them) scattered in a corner near the door. Walked over, bent
down and squinted to see if any were the old "fatty" pennies from before 1982.
Answer was yes so I picked them all up and put them in my back pocket to sort
later at home.

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Postby OtusLotus » Thu May 17, 2012 11:43 am

ROFL.... Freaking Great!!!!
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby barrytrot » Thu May 17, 2012 3:26 pm

How about the time cost in reading this article :) This guy owes all of us some money!
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby TheJonasCollegeFund » Thu May 17, 2012 3:32 pm

And I get people asking me why I DIG up pennies when I'm out metal detecting because my machine will give me a reading that will show me what the coin might be. 99% of the time when it shows penny,,,,it's a penny. AND, I can tell the coppers from the zincs. I STILL DIG THEM....and the other 1% of the time it could be a TREASURE!



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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby Shifty51 » Thu May 17, 2012 4:09 pm

"He who does not respect the penny is not worthy of the dollar" - German Proverb (paraphrased of course)
He who does not respect the penny is not worthy of the dollar
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Re: verything2 Is a penny worth picking up?

Postby Cu Lung » Thu May 17, 2012 11:27 pm

If a silver dime dropped below one cent a piece, would you pick it up??
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
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