Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby AGCoinHunter » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:03 pm

Just looked at it again, whats going on with the 4? It looks like its been flattened? It that just the picture?
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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby willy13 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:04 pm

thats an amazing find.... :o
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Postby TheJonasCollegeFund » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:06 pm

Well....did this pupppy come from a box or bank bag? You never did say....! :D
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Postby CU Baker » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:42 pm

Merry X-mas, no chunk of coal this year. Congrats :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby NHsorter » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:59 pm

An acetone bath won't mess up the coin? I thought if they were cleaned in any way then it ruined the value and could not be graded. How long do you bathe it for? I just happen to have cases and cases of HPLC Grade Acetone and tens of thousands of gallons of industrial grade acetone right here! (We blend cleaning solvents for the graphic arts industry)
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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby AGCoinHunter » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:21 pm

NHsorter wrote:An acetone bath won't mess up the coin? I thought if they were cleaned in any way then it ruined the value and could not be graded. How long do you bathe it for? I just happen to have cases and cases of HPLC Grade Acetone and tens of thousands of gallons of industrial grade acetone right here! (We blend cleaning solvents for the graphic arts industry)



Please dont do anything to it. Just leave it as is. There are things you can do but unless you know what you are doing you can really screw it up and lose 99% of the value.
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Postby Chaboo » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:28 pm

Nice...very nice!
I'm curious about the acetone too....
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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby NHsorter » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:02 pm

AGCoinHunter wrote:Just looked at it again, whats going on with the 4? It looks like its been flattened? It that just the picture?


I think it is some crud, in combination with the lighting that makes that look funny in the pic. Looks a little better to the naked eye. I'm gonna look at it tonight with some good magnification.
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Postby highroller4321 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:16 pm

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NHsorter wrote:An acetone bath won't mess up the coin? I thought if they were cleaned in any way then it ruined the value and could not be graded. How long do you bathe it for? I just happen to have cases and cases of HPLC Grade Acetone and tens of thousands of gallons of industrial grade acetone right here! (We blend cleaning solvents for the graphic arts industry)



Please dont do anything to it. Just leave it as is. There are things you can do but unless you know what you are doing you can really screw it up and lose 99% of the value.



Dont take my word for it......but acetone won't hurt the coin. It certainly dries your hands out though! In my experience the acetone bath really doesn't help get much gunk off the coin. I would probably clean it with soap and water though.

Typically when you hear "cleaned coin" its ment that something was put on the coin that altered its surcface. IE: any polishing, silver dip, ect.
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Postby daviscfad » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:04 pm

Acetone will not hurt the coin. all it will do is soften the gunk on the coin so water can rinse it off
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Postby NHsorter » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:42 pm

I think I'll mess around with some beat up teens and 20's wheats tonight to see what happens. Right now I have NO plans to even remove this 1914 from the 2x2 because I don't trust myself with it at this point. Thanks for all the help!
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Postby scrapper2010 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:03 pm

Anybody got any before and after pics of coins soaked in acetone?
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Postby NHsorter » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:50 pm

TheJonasCollegeFund wrote:Well....did this pupppy come from a box or bank bag? You never did say....! :D


It came from a box with Loomis printed on the rolling paper.
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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby agmoose » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:45 pm

Congrats - great find.

I wouldn't clean in any way - any rubbing, soap, etc., CAN cause damage, scratches, etc. There are certain solutions you can apply that can help remove the "gunk" . It can be "improved" but if you aren't 100% sure of what you are doing, you could ruin the coin.

If you go to www.coincommunity.com and seek out user "BadThad" - he is an expert on this and actually also has created a preservation/cleaning solution when used correctly will not harm the coin. I have some, and used it on a couple of my older, better wheats. I'd send him a photo of your find and ask his advice.

Again - congrats. Awesome find in the wild.
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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby daviscfad » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:49 pm

scrapper2010 wrote:Anybody got any before and after pics of coins soaked in acetone?


Proof is right here. notice the gunk around the rims.
BEFORE
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ALSO NOTICE IT UNDER E IN ONE
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After

NO GUNK

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Postby scrapper2010 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:43 pm

He he, slick. Thanks for the pics.
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Postby cesariojpn » Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:58 am

NHsorter wrote:I think I'll mess around with some beat up teens and 20's wheats tonight to see what happens. Right now I have NO plans to even remove this 1914 from the 2x2 because I don't trust myself with it at this point. Thanks for all the help!


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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby NHsorter » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:46 am

I thought I would post a couple pics that I took last night. I held a loupe up to the lens on my phones camera and snapped these. It shows a good close up of the details as well as the crud on the coin. I am still pondering what to do. I think if this crud was somehow safely removed then the coin would probably grade higher. I just don't have the guts to try anything.

I have not figured out how to get these pics to post up larger than this, but you should be ableto zoom in with your browser with "CTRL+" to get a closer look.
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Postby MikeyPooh » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:03 am

Didn't I hear about one of the third party graders offering a coin restoration service? For something like your coin, I think that might be the way to go, let the pros do it....
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Postby stash » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:14 am

Yeah.. I agree it may be worth it to have it professionally cleaned and then graded.
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Postby NHsorter » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:50 am

I would be interested to hear more details if anyone has experience with a coin restoration/cleaning service. Thanks guys!
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Postby TheJonasCollegeFund » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:55 am

NHsorter wrote:I thought I would post a couple pics that I took last night. I held a loupe up to the lens on my phones camera and snapped these. It shows a good close up of the details as well as the crud on the coin. I am still pondering what to do. I think if this crud was somehow safely removed then the coin would probably grade higher. I just don't have the guts to try anything.

I have not figured out how to get these pics to post up larger than this, but you should be ableto zoom in with your browser with "CTRL+" to get a closer look.
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Try photobucket.....free site....I upload all of my pics there....they have some neat editing features....try it out.
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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby willy13 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:03 pm

no advice but that really is a damn nice looking coin!
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Postby willy13 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:05 pm

daviscfad, how long did you soak that coin in acetone?
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Re: Tonights find... my BEST FIND EVER - 1914-D XF-AU?

Postby everything » Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:39 am

I wonder what's going on with this coin, it will be interesting to hear how it grades. They did figure it definitely needed a cleaning.
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