Thinking outside the box (literally)

[wagsthadog]

Hi there Beau-

Haha, I am a huge CMartenson fan as well, I loved his recent presentation in Spain- No, I agree 100% with the fundamentals on ALL metals in the future, and the horrors of liquid fuel/energy shortages for our world- But I can't change the world resource picture; only prepare as best I can, and I was just throwing the few points we can start thinking about and maybe planning for on the small/medium size average copper guy in the everyday sense.

wags

[frugalcanuck]

Everyone here is concerned that the USPS might be the ones to impose change on the system, by raising the prices to ship flat rate. Not a single respondent questions whether the present system is sustainable. It is NOT. Peak oil will put air transport out of business some day. It is not a question of if it might happen, or when might it happen. It is inevitable and imminent, and you will have far greater concerns as a result, than merely pondering how profitable it might be to continue sorting cents. An interesting perspective of the after-effects of a world undergoing post peak-oil is the recently released movie Atlas Shrugged. For those who think I'm a tree-hugger, go take the Crash Course at chrismartenson.com and then you might want to rethink your skepticism.

Right on the mark. I second the go take the crash course. I watch it when I sort. I have watched it many many times. To get the answer to your question all you have to do is ask any Canadian. It is not profitable to sell unless you make a trip to the states for the flat rate or you have a local buyer. That is with the current prices of copper, gas, and fiat.

Any other Canucks feel like commenting?

[TXBullion]

Everyone here is concerned that the USPS might be the ones to impose change on the system, by raising the prices to ship flat rate. Not a single respondent questions whether the present system is sustainable. It is NOT. Peak oil will put air transport out of business some day. It is not a question of if it might happen, or when might it happen. It is inevitable and imminent, and you will have far greater concerns as a result, than merely pondering how profitable it might be to continue sorting cents. An interesting perspective of the after-effects of a world undergoing post peak-oil is the recently released movie Atlas Shrugged. For those who think I'm a tree-hugger, go take the Crash Course at chrismartenson.com and then you might want to rethink your skepticism.

Right on the mark. I second the go take the crash course. I watch it when I sort. I have watched it many many times. To get the answer to your question all you have to do is ask any Canadian. It is not profitable to sell unless you make a trip to the states for the flat rate or you have a local buyer. That is with the current prices of copper, gas, and fiat.

Any other Canucks feel like commenting?

On the Canadian side frugal canuk makes a good point. A large enough quantity can provide alternative transportation that could be as cheap as FRBs

[cupronickel]

The major cost to the post office is the disability payments to all of the mail carriers who injured their backs lifting those deceptively heavy boxes.

[highroller4321]

The major cost to the post office is the disability payments to all of the mail carriers who injured their backs lifting those deceptively heavy boxes.

I disagree. The major cost to the post office is no one ever getting fired. For the most part they all start out at 17+/yr will full benefites and unless they steal or do something major its nearly impossbile for them to get fired. This means you have about 2x the employees for the job!

[barrytrot]

The major cost to the post office is the disability payments to all of the mail carriers who injured their backs lifting those deceptively heavy boxes.

I disagree. The major cost to the post office is no one ever getting fired. For the most part they all start out at 17+/yr will full benefites and unless they steal or do something major its nearly impossbile for them to get fired. This means you have about 2x the employees for the job!

BINGO. That's a key problem with all government jobs. People can dig in far more easily than jobs where *doing a good job is rewarded*. In government work the reward is consistently not doing a bad enough job to be fired. That's why 100% of government activity gets CRUSHED when competition is allowed.

[wpd7]

The major cost to the post office is the disability payments to all of the mail carriers who injured their backs lifting those deceptively heavy boxes.

I disagree. The major cost to the post office is no one ever getting fired. For the most part they all start out at 17+/yr will full benefites and unless they steal or do something major its nearly impossbile for them to get fired. This means you have about 2x the employees for the job!

You missed his joke.