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Large Volume Sorting

Postby pennyhoard » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:21 pm

Hello All!

Does anyone know of a industrial/commercial High Volume machine that seperates copper pennies from the zinc? Who manufactures and sells this type of machine. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated! Thanks.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby NHsorter » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:54 pm

Look into the Ryedale Apprentice. There are many other threads on here if you do a search. They are very long lasting machines and they are fast. You can run a few at a time if you really want to go through some cents. Welcome to the forum!
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby pennyhoard » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:08 pm

Hello NH,

Thanks for the info. I am aware of the Ryedale but am looking for something that can process alot more volume than say 5-6 Ryedales. Thank You.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby NHsorter » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:04 pm

How much volume are you talking about? Where are you gonna dump all that zinc?
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby slickeast » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:49 pm

There are commercial sorters out there that can sort pennies. They are expensive and people who have them are tight lipped about them.

To justify running/owning one would require you to be sorting $2000+ a day.

My 4 Ryedales can handle $2000 in 3 +/- hours.

Then you need to get rid of $1500 in zinc.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby drummer55 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:26 am

The guy who was that news piece about copper prospectors might have information about the machine he uses.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby mtldealer » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:44 am

I am in the scrap metal business/ usable metal business. I am trying to design a commercial machine. I need to get in touch with people who can make a project like this a reality. I have access to all the metal, welding, electronics ect... Let's start a group 8-)
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby pennyhoard » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:33 am

Hello All!

I appreciate the replies from all of you! I am talking about running 500-600 thousand coins per day. I just thought I would ask in this forum to see if someone could point me in the right direction or may have one available? I have no problem getting rid of the zincs. Thanks for the picture of the "Super Sorter" I am well aware of it also I just wish I could persuade Brinks to sell me one! I think we all know that will never happen. Hope everyone is having a good day.....
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby NHsorter » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:25 pm

Come on, spill the beans. You can't tease up like this and not give us more details.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby JJM » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:45 pm

I've encountered machines in banks that give the receipt broken down by coin, and they break cents down between zinc and copper. I'm sure they're pricey, and they wouldn't do the volume you're talking about. I'm guessing the company that makes them has the ability to make them sort copper from zinc as well.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby WealthMatic » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:51 pm

Your best bet would be to get get a bunch of common sorters in series, would be cheaper too since you'll be able to negotiate a better price if you're buying 5 at once.

That's what I'm working on right now, not going to bother with commercial equipment.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby pennyhoard » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:05 pm

There are plenty of sorters/counters available everywhere however finding a Reliable industrial sorter that seperates cooper from zincs has proven difficult.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby TXBullion » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:12 pm

WealthMatic wrote:Your best bet would be to get get a bunch of common sorters in series, would be cheaper too since you'll be able to negotiate a better price if you're buying 5 at once.

That's what I'm working on right now, not going to bother with commercial equipment.

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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby willy13 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:19 pm

slickeast wrote:There are commercial sorters out there that can sort pennies. They are expensive and people who have them are tight lipped about them.

To justify running/owning one would require you to be sorting $2000+ a day.

My 4 Ryedales can handle $2000 in 3 +/- hours.

Then you need to get rid of $1500 in zinc.

Looks like slickeast's 4 rydales can do what you want to do per day. Its sounds like he could do $5333 per 8 hr day. Thats the 500,000 coins you wanted to do per day.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby NHsorter » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:37 pm

willy13 wrote:
slickeast wrote:There are commercial sorters out there that can sort pennies. They are expensive and people who have them are tight lipped about them.

To justify running/owning one would require you to be sorting $2000+ a day.

My 4 Ryedales can handle $2000 in 3 +/- hours.

Then you need to get rid of $1500 in zinc.

Looks like slickeast's 4 rydales can do what you want to do per day. Its sounds like he could do $5333 per 8 hr day. Thats the 500,000 coins you wanted to do per day.


Or run 8 Ryedales and go home early :D And don't forget to upload a video once you get it set up
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby TXBullion » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:49 pm

then you need a crew to unstop jams when they come up. Ryedale is good for a scale that most people are on. When you talk about doing 5 ten grand, you better rethink your plans before you go out and buy 10 ryedales....
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby slickeast » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:58 pm

TXBullion wrote:then you need a crew to unstop jams when they come up. Ryedale is good for a scale that most people are on. When you talk about doing 5 ten grand, you better rethink your plans before you go out and buy 10 ryedales....


I agree. Running 4 is tough. I would not want to try running $5000 in one day through 4 Ryedales. Much less everyday.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby plus1hdcp » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:07 pm

I just hope your dump banks are no where near me
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby pennyhoard » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:16 pm

drummer55 wrote:The guy who was that news piece about copper prospectors might have information about the machine he uses.

Thanks but I doubt that anyone wants to share the information
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby pennyhoard » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:18 pm

plus1hdcp wrote:I just hope your dump banks are no where near me

Lol you have nothing for fear I am a long way from you
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby pennyhoard » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:20 pm

JJM wrote:I've encountered machines in banks that give the receipt broken down by coin, and they break cents down between zinc and copper. I'm sure they're pricey, and they wouldn't do the volume you're talking about. I'm guessing the company that makes them has the ability to make them sort copper from zinc as well.

Thanks JJM!
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby tinhorn » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:28 pm

All you need to do is contract with a few dozen Ryedale operators. Let us worry about the maintenance.
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Re: Large Volume Sorting

Postby NiBullionCu » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:04 pm

Take a look at the Talaris Mach series sorters.

(Talaris, formerly DeLaRue, formerly Brandt)

The Mach6 does 3,000 coins a minute and the Mach9 series does 4500 coins a minute; both are available with coin recognition.

(They call it their WAVE technology)

I worked at Brandt/DelaRue for a decade. The coin recognition was able to separate copper from zinc already back in 1999.

These are expensive machines though.

http://www.talaris.com/en-us/products-s ... ach-9.aspx
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