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Appraise Please :) (Still needs appraisal)

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 6:33 pm
by RD5
What do you think about this penny? I think it might be a mint error. My previous thread had a picture of it still in a flip and had it looking old and scratched. So, what do you think it's worth?

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Re: Minting Error or Owner Abuse?

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:33 pm
by deacon
Can you be more specific on what are you looking for? The extra hair?
Its hard to tell with the plastic, camera flash, sideways cent.

Re: Minting Error or Owner Abuse?

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:13 pm
by RD5
Yeah, the extra hair, I had to take this with a phone so it's a bit low quality

Re: Minting Error or Owner Abuse?

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:21 pm
by henrysmedford
If it came out of a roll of cents then someone pulled it out of a mint set and spent it. When it started out as part of a mint set a collector must have owned it. I would think that at that point it would have been saved if it was an error. So I think it is post mint.

Re: Minting Error or Owner Abuse?

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:31 pm
by RD5
Bummer, so selling it as an error is out of the question? Edit : The coin is actually in great condition I took it out of the package, the package was making it look really scratched up. It looks as if something was smashed into the hair area and the left over is a pile up of metal on his forehead. It looks like maybe it was burnt

Re: Appraise Please :)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:34 pm
by TheJonasCollegeFund
Need to crop your photo and then resize it. Details are easier to see that way.

Re: Appraise Please :)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:50 pm
by RD5
Updated picture :D

Re: Appraise Please :)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:09 pm
by TheJonasCollegeFund
Now the problem is the light. Can you take another pic with a different lighting source. AND....try turning off your flash. The proof are too shiny for a flash.

I'm more interested in the area to the right of Abe's chin.

Re: Appraise Please :)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:14 pm
by RD5
Ok give me a moment

Re: Appraise Please :)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:18 pm
by TheJonasCollegeFund
You may have a "struck through"! That's looks a little like a piece of cloth got on top of the planchant when it was struck. If you have a loupe, look at that area and see if you see the tiny little lines that could have been made from fibers from the cloth. I had one and it was COOL. It's worth more if there are any fibers still stuck in the coin.

Re: Appraise Please :)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:27 pm
by RD5
I updated the picture

Re: Appraise Please :)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:30 pm
by TheJonasCollegeFund
Hard to tell now....his head...is there a gash...can you describe what you see or get an angle shot. Someone else will get to the bottom of this. Hard to tell for me.

Re: Appraise Please :)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:31 pm
by RD5
yeah theres dip taken out of his head/hair and a little blackish brown streak on the right rim of the coin

Re: Appraise Please :) (Still needs appraisal)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:35 pm
by Market Harmony
Without seeing the reverse, I doubt that it is post mint error... maybe it is a post pistol bust. Can you post an image of the reverse?

Re: Appraise Please :) (Still needs appraisal)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:56 pm
by henrysmedford
I asked Mike Diamond last year president of http://conecaonline.org/ and--

I can't determine the nature of the blemish from your photo.

Mike

Re: Appraise Please :) (Still needs appraisal)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:07 pm
by RD5
Posted a obverse picture, hopefully its good enough, I didn't have alot of time to take it. Thank you all for your contributions

Re: Appraise Please :) (Still needs appraisal)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:20 pm
by Thogey
It looks like the LIBERTY is doubled

Re: Appraise Please :) (Still needs appraisal)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:25 pm
by henrysmedford
Thogey wrote:It looks like the LIBERTY is doubled

Good eye.

From -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_coinage#United_States_proof_coins

Most proof coins are double struck. This does not normally result in doubling that is readily observable, but does result in the devices being struck fully.

Re: Appraise Please :) (Still needs appraisal)

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:39 pm
by RD5
I think i'm going to post this coin in the BIN section

EDIT: Find it here viewtopic.php?f=28&t=14822