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copper bars

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:04 am
by michindi
Who has bought copper bars? I have noticed that they are high priced and was thinking about buying some, but are they worth the extra cost?

Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:20 am
by Devil Soundwave
I have a few, and also some copper rounds, but I don't believe they are worth the money unless you can buy in bulk and thus get a better rate per piece. I don't personally think copper is yet at a place to really warrant any big premiums over spot, so I perhaps the best bet is to stick to copper circulation pennies.

That said, I have a couple of Truedex Veritas Truth Tokens sat on my desk in front of me and tehy are very nice pieces and stomp all over copper bars.

One other thing to think about is the liquidity of your investment down the line - I have read a few posts here and elsewhere recently which point out that the big silver bars which looked like a good buy at $4 per ounce are now not feeling like such a good buy after all as they are getting harder and harder to move along as the spot price goes up; and the higher the price, the fewer people with funds to be able to purchase such large items. On the other hand, there is always a market for one ounce rounds regardless of spot.

That being the case, if you are looking at getting into copper for the long hall (say ten years plus where we may be looking at similar prices for copper as we are currently seeing for silver), you may want to limit your purchases to 1 ounce rounds or smaller coinage so as to retain liquidity in your investment.

Just my opinion though and I'm still a relative newbie.

Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:30 am
by Lemon Thrower
i have several one-tenth troy ounce copper rounds I can sell you at spot. they are 95% pure and made by a very well known mint.

Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:32 am
by TXBullion
Lemon Thrower wrote:i have several one-tenth troy ounce copper rounds I can sell you at spot. they are 95% pure and made by a very well known mint.


Lol, it took me a second :lol: I know those minted rounds are really above melt so I was about to jump on that thinking why would they mint them at .950 instead of .999

Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:54 am
by michindi
What are 1oz rounds going for these days?

Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:20 am
by fasteddy
I have a few half pound bars and 1 pound bars and a little over one hundred 1oz rounds...the bars are pricey compared to cents, but they are nice to look at and a little diversification is good however I mainly stay into the cents....its where the value is currently. I paid 4 bucks each for the half pound bars...8 bucks each for the pound bars and close to a buck for some of the rounds in bulk(100)...singles will run quit a bit more $1.95 - $2.95....check www.budsgunshop.com for their signature copper rounds...best price in bulk.They also work well for gifts...I have given a few out to my gun buddies and family members...NORFED/ Liberty is still pressing copper rounds.

Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:29 am
by Devil Soundwave
There are new AOCS ones coming soon that they plan to knock out at a buck twenty five, or a round dollar depending upon quantity purchased.

http://www.opencurrency.com/survival-copper/

I'll be ordering some when teh site goes live.

Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:54 am
by Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay
Devil Soundwave wrote:I have a few, and also some copper rounds, but I don't believe they are worth the money unless you can buy in bulk and thus get a better rate per piece. I don't personally think copper is yet at a place to really warrant any big premiums over spot, so I perhaps the best bet is to stick to copper circulation pennies.

That said, I have a couple of Truedex Veritas Truth Tokens sat on my desk in front of me and tehy are very nice pieces and stomp all over copper bars.

One other thing to think about is the liquidity of your investment down the line - I have read a few posts here and elsewhere recently which point out that the big silver bars which looked like a good buy at $4 per ounce are now not feeling like such a good buy after all as they are getting harder and harder to move along as the spot price goes up; and the higher the price, the fewer people with funds to be able to purchase such large items. On the other hand, there is always a market for one ounce rounds regardless of spot.

That being the case, if you are looking at getting into copper for the long hall (say ten years plus where we may be looking at similar prices for copper as we are currently seeing for silver), you may want to limit your purchases to 1 ounce rounds or smaller coinage so as to retain liquidity in your investment.

Just my opinion though and I'm still a relative newbie.


Right. It is easy to buy 1000 ozt bars in dealer shops, but quite another thing when you want to sell them. People want them assayed. They will make outlandish accusations that the middle could be filled with lead, or titanium. All of this is to convey mistrust and drive down the price of said bars. I actually had one well known dealer here tell me: "I'll sell them to you, but I will not buy them back."

Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:24 am
by Lemon Thrower
TXBullion wrote:
Lemon Thrower wrote:i have several one-tenth troy ounce copper rounds I can sell you at spot. they are 95% pure and made by a very well known mint.


Lol, it took me a second :lol: I know those minted rounds are really above melt so I was about to jump on that thinking why would they mint them at .950 instead of .999


here is a pic.

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Re: copper bars

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:55 am
by TXBullion
Lemon Thrower wrote:
TXBullion wrote:
Lemon Thrower wrote:i have several one-tenth troy ounce copper rounds I can sell you at spot. they are 95% pure and made by a very well known mint.


Lol, it took me a second :lol: I know those minted rounds are really above melt so I was about to jump on that thinking why would they mint them at .950 instead of .999


here is a pic.

Image


I caught that, I remember the post when the person thought of it and it was brilliant from the old site. Not sure if that was you Lemon Thrower but very clever whoever thought of that one