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1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:22 am
by palmvtree
I have doing a little research and was wondering ( as well as wanting to inform the group) if anyone else came across something like this ever? I always look at the 1994 pennies in search of the elusive DD reverse error and on this penny that was found when you flip it north and south the reverse is just about upside down. It looks like there are a few other examples online regarding this potential error for this date and was just curious how much the coin could be worth and how common it is? http://www.lincolncentresource.com/Erro ... dDies.html .
I have come across "trick coins" in the past but this coin sounds like the others when you drop it, not the thud the hollowed out trick ones make. Looking at the coin it's not quite exactly upside down, only off ever so slightly maybe a a few degrees at the most. Please share if you have also come across anything like this and what the premium may be for these type of coins. Thanks.

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:35 pm
by TheJonasCollegeFund
PICTURES!!!!!!


Please! :D

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:45 pm
by Market Harmony
Rotated dies happen in all denominations and throughout the centuries of the US mint. Some are a few degrees off of normal and some are much more severe, such as the one you are describing. The more severe the error on any coin, the more likely it will command a better premium. How much of a premium is always up to the buyer and seller. Research it well before you sell, and congrats on the find.

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:01 pm
by palmvtree
I knew that was going to be the first question...first time adding a pic, so hopefully this works. Is this something worth sending off to be graded just to certify as I am sure there will be people that question it? I know it is circulated but how rare are these and has anyone else found something like this on the site? After putting the coin in a flip, it defintely looks like it is a 165 degree rotated die as outlined in the prior link I included. It is finds like these that make hand sorting so much fun. I used to think wide AM's were fun to find, but now I may have to flip each zinc coin now ... which is only going to slow things down even more!!! You know its a good bag when the copper was over 30% (still working on it), 15 dimes and the last handful had a silver 1958 rose. Thanks for info Mr. Harmony.
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Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:34 pm
by fb101
really nice catch. Yep looks like a rotated die, but you'll have to do your homework for a good price or email those pics to fred weinberg.

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:42 pm
by JobIII
That's a great find. I never found a single one like that.

Congrats!

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:47 pm
by John Reich
Rotated dies are common on pre-1836 coins, but on modern coins the die is machined so it only fits in the press one way and "shouldn't" rotate, so they are a lot scarcer on modern coins. It's definitely a nice piece. Email or call Fred Weinberg--he should be able to give you a value.

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:48 pm
by deacon
That is a thing of beauty.

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:53 pm
by John Reich
http://www.lincolncentresource.com/Erro ... rrors.html

Check this out--there's a photo of the 1994 rotated die cent! Look under the section on "Rotated Dies".

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:20 pm
by TheJonasCollegeFund
AWESOME FIND!!!!!!!

Cool pic, too!

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:44 pm
by RichardPenny43
Definitely cool!
Keep it in the flip and hang on to it
or
Trade it here for silver :)

Re: 1994 P upside down reverse

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:24 pm
by willy13
yes, very nice find! congrats!

I am also a hand sorter, and I still have not found a rotated die...