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Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:12 pm
by dbalek
What is the percentage of copper versus zinc cents for 1982? I think they switched over from copper planchettes to zinc in October 1982.
I've heard ~75% copper to 25% zinc.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:36 pm
by aloneibreak
dbalek wrote:What is the percentage of copper versus zinc cents for 1982? I think they switched over from copper planchettes to zinc in October 1982.
I've heard ~75% copper to 25% zinc.


that must be pretty close

i run right at 80% copper on the 82's

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:09 pm
by creshka46
I heard 75% 25% as well. I've never kept track for myself though.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:40 pm
by shinnosuke
Pre-Ryedale, I weighed all my '82s. I consistently got 80+% keepers. That's the only good statistic in penny sorting in south Texas. The overall Cu ratio is painfully low.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:40 pm
by slvrbck
Funny u mention this. I was just thinking the other day that it seems like the percentage of copper 82s is falling. I wonder if its from people keeping the coppers

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:08 pm
by Bluegill
Back when I was still sorting, my 1982 ratio was right about 80%Cu/20%Zn.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:34 am
by Diggin4copper
Not sure why, but I am always at about 40% copper and 60% zinc with 82s... been handsorting lately as the rydale is packed away for a move. Just did 80 dollars in CWR ans still 40%..im in Massachusetts, must be a northeast thing...

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:02 pm
by JobIII
I never kept track, I would have guessed around 50/50...

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:44 pm
by outofsort
Interesting question. Overall I bet I am at 85+% Cu. For a while before I had a weight measuring devise, I set aside about $5 worth of 82's. Then, I seperated them into the seven types - Cu-Zn, Lg-Sm date, Denver-Philly. Where I live, I collected mostly Lg date Denver. These were easily 95% Cu. I wish I kept closer track, but the other groups seemed to be split closer to 50-50. I don't see many Sm date and Philly coins so this is underpowered and only a very rough estimate.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:51 pm
by Romalae
In central Texas, it's about 75-25 in favor of the coppers...which is plausible given that the transition date was in October; approximately 3/4 into the year.

Further, I'd estimate that it could be broken down into 70% LD Copper, 5% SD Copper, 15% LD Zinc, and 10% SD Zinc. It's interesting that I rarely find SD Coppers, I really wish I knew why that is. Does anyone have any detailed, official information about the die varieties of that year?

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:28 pm
by jmaii
Just sorted some 1982s by hand last night (about 50). Around 80% coppers. I went so long without hitting a zinc that I thought I was doing something wrong, but the consensus from a few Google searches was 75/25 copper.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:00 pm
by scyther
jmaii wrote:Just sorted some 1982s by hand last night (about 50). Around 80% coppers. I went so long without hitting a zinc that I thought I was doing something wrong, but the consensus from a few Google searches was 75/25 copper.

Yeah, when I weigh them I probably get 90+% copper, but I do throw aside some that seem to obviously be zinc before I weigh them.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:12 pm
by TheJonasCollegeFund
The country's 4th quarter, or end of the year, ends at the end of September. So, October 1st starts the "new year" for the government. That gives us 3 months of zinc 1982 pennies. And if production was constant, the copper to zinc should be 75% to 25%.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 11:58 am
by StoreOfValue
Posted below I have some fairly reliable data I compiled a couple of years ago. First I found some anecdotal data from coppercoins.com (not a large sample size @ less than 1,000 coins), so I decided to compile my own data because I have never spent or turned in a 1982 cent and I hand sort EVERYTHING. I will explain the best I can what the data refers to.

First, the data on the left is actual usmint.gov statistics for Philadelphia and Denver. The first two numbers after each type coin are my percentage and totals from about 8,500 pennies. My data is skewed to overweight Denver (most certainly because of living in NM). I am also probably overweight copper (90% compared to expected 75-80%) due to sorting many of my coins from bullion purchases the last several years. Finally, the last set of numbers (in the millions and billions) I extrapolated from the ACTUAL data I compiled accounting for the ACTUAL mint statistics from Philadelphia & Denver. The percentages you see (not in bold) are the percent of total Philadelphia, percent of total Denver, percent of total Coppers, percent of total Zincs. The bold percentages represent the percents comparing only Philadelphia/Denver & Copper/Zinc. I believe this data to be close to accurate at least if you compare Zinc to Zinc or Copper to Copper. I eventually would like to extrapolate further based on the error in my P & D statistics.


Philadelphia 56.24%
10,712,525,000
64.05%
1982 P Lg Zinc 11.05% 537 1,183,424,383
1982 P Sm Zinc 0.45% 22 48,482,936
1982 P Lg Copper 85.72% 4,167 9,183,108,758
1982 P Sm Copper 2.78% 135 297,508,923

Denver 43.76%
6,012,979,368
35.95%
1982 D Lg Zinc 2.43% 92 146,270,254
1982 D Sm Zinc 5.26% 199 316,388,920
1982 D Lg Copper 92.31% 3,491 5,550,320,194

Coppers 90.17%
1982 P Lg Copper 53.47% 4,167
1982 P Sm Copper 1.73% 135
1982 D Lg Copper 44.80% 3,491

Zincs 9.83%
1982 P Lg Zinc 63.18% 537
1982 P Sm Zinc 2.59% 22
1982 D Lg Zinc 10.82% 92
1982 D Sm Zinc 23.41% 199

Sorry the data is not as clean as the spreadsheet from which it came.
-Mark

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:07 pm
by LooseChange
I couldn't resist making a few graphs when I saw the above data posted. I doubt anyone else has kept track of more than 8,500 1982s. Even though your data is location specific, I can imagine over the last 31 years, the 82s have had a good time to mix up (Denver/Philly and Copper/Zinc) :)
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82 Copper Breakdown.JPG
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82 Zinc Breakdown.JPG
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Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:27 am
by StoreOfValue
Thanks for the visual.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:26 pm
by Morsecode
Diggin4copper wrote:Not sure why, but I am always at about 40% copper and 60% zinc with 82s... been handsorting lately as the rydale is packed away for a move. Just did 80 dollars in CWR ans still 40%..im in Massachusetts, must be a northeast thing...


But here in CT, I always seemed to get 75% cu. That was as recently as a year ago when I last sorted cents.

Re: Copper/Zinc percentages of 1982 cents???

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:53 pm
by Zincanator
I save all '82s, then sort them on a rainy day. I'd say the results are pretty dang near close to what the pie charts indicate.