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Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:25 am
by mishra142
Found this while sorting pennies. It came out the copper side of the ryedale. Its pretty toasty it says either 1850 or 60 on one side with a 1 above. Pictures are from my phone they aren't great sorry.

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Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:35 am
by 68Camaro
Weight, diameter?

Almost looks like a very worn $1 gold piece.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:44 am
by hobo finds
I think 68 is right! That would be a nice find :clap:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:12 am
by Romalae
Image

Looks pretty convincing to me. Excellent find!

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:25 am
by mishra142
I was thinking gold to but thought surely not. Any way of knowing for sure? It's pretty much same diameter as a penny is have to weigh it when I get home.

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:33 am
by NHsorter
Dude, nice! I think 68 is right as well by the looks of it. Hold a penny in one hand and this coin in the other. This coin should be noticeably much heavier. When you get home weigh it and that should just about confirm it. I think it is so beat up that it's only worth the gold value so no harn in scratching it on a stone to do an acid test. I am rooting for you. Where did you find this???

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:47 am
by xippi
NHsorter wrote:Dude, nice! I think 68 is right as well by the looks of it. Hold a penny in one hand and this coin in the other. This coin should be noticeably much heavier. When you get home weigh it and that should just about confirm it. I think it is so beat up that it's only worth the gold value so no harn in scratching it on a stone to do an acid test. I am rooting for you. Where did you find this???


"I think it is so beat up that it's only worth the gold value so no harn in scratching it on a stone to do an acid test"

I say send it to PCGS! :P

Very cool find! :clap: :clap:

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:53 am
by mishra142
Well i weighed it but my scale only weights in 5 gram incriments. A zinc penny weighs 0 on my scale this coin weighs 5 grams. It does feel heavier than a zinc as well. I dont have an acid test kit so I may take it to a jewlery store or pawn shop to see if they will test it for me. I got this out of a $50 penny bag from a bank that I get all their penny bags weeky. I've had some mega wheat scores from this bank in the past (like 10-15fv wheats from a $50 bag)

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:59 am
by 68Camaro
mishra142 wrote:Well i weighed it but my scale only weights in 5 gram incriments. A zinc penny weighs 0 on my scale this coin weighs 5 grams. It does feel heavier than a zinc as well. I dont have an acid test kit so I may take it to a jewlery store or pawn shop to see if they will test it for me. I got this out of a $50 penny bag from a bank that I get all their penny bags weeky. I've had some mega wheat scores from this bank in the past (like 10-15fv wheats from a $50 bag)


Your scale isn't terribly convincing, but the coin should weigh LESS than a zinc penny, if it's a 1 dollar gold piece. Should weigh well under 1.7 grams.

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:03 pm
by mishra142
Diameter is exactly the same as a penny

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:08 pm
by hobo finds

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:19 pm
by mishra142
I cleaning it up a little bit and there is clearly a B below the date. Which makes me believe it is not a gold dollar.

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Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:21 pm
by NHsorter
Oh, dang. Maybe some foreign coin. When you said it was the same size as a penny, I got even more excited and thought it might be a $3 gold piece. Dang, all logical thinking goes right out the door when the thought of free gold comes up. :lol:

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:25 pm
by mishra142
I found a 1850 grote on google looks similar. May be one of those.

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:25 pm
by NiBullionCu
Austria, 1 Kreuzer

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:31 pm
by hobo finds

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:33 pm
by mishra142
I think nibullioncu is right..... Dang! On well lol thanks for the help guys.

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:36 pm
by hobo finds
It is still copper :thumbup:

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:37 pm
by Romalae
And here I was, searching all over the place for 1850s Bombay-mint coins. I agree with NiBullionCu and hobo finds after looking at the provided image.

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:00 pm
by OtusLotus
I always say that Realcent has the BEST detectives!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:22 pm
by henrysmedford
looks like more the one realcenter has found that one---http://realcent.org/search.php?keywords=kreuzer+

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:35 pm
by Cent1225
This has been one of the most interesting threads I have read. It had its mystery, anticipation, reality then letdown. Better that a sappy movie!
I was rooting for the gold peice, but still a cool find. Anything 160+ years old still out in the "wild" is still pretty cool to find.

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:17 pm
by Robarons
It would have been more likely to find a $2.50 gold piece in penny rolls than a $1 gold piece. I think the $1 gold pieces are the smallest coin ever minted by the US Mint (or maybe it was the 3 cent silver)

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:57 pm
by Romalae
So would this be, like, the Austrian equivalent of a Wheat Cent or an Indian Head Cent? Because if so, then the probability of finding one of those in Austrian circulation is quite low, and much much lower in American circulation.

Re: Help ID this coin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:22 pm
by scyther
Robarons wrote:It would have been more likely to find a $2.50 gold piece in penny rolls than a $1 gold piece. I think the $1 gold pieces are the smallest coin ever minted by the US Mint (or maybe it was the 3 cent silver)

Yeah, I was thinking that too. If I remember correctly the 3 cent silver piece is the lightest coin, and the one dollar gold piece is the smallest.