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Trying to post a video. What do you think. Bronze 1983 P cent?

https://youtube.com/shorts/e8O4iCDFGAY

been a while. failing at posting the video straight into this post...

Wow factor 9.8

What are next steps to confirm or debunk?

And in nice condition, too. It looks like cu.

One of my fantasy finds that I never found.

I wanted to send this to grading in 2022. Got a little confused by the process, and gave up. It's a goal to send this year.

BTW it also 'sounds' like copper, As i bounced it accidentally off the table when i was flipping 1982's for the copper ring.

Wait, weight

Looks like a winner to me. Time to get it graded.

JobIII wrote:I wanted to send this to grading in 2022. Got a little confused by the process, and gave up. It's a goal to send this year.

You've been sitting on this for over a year?

You do realize (if confirmed) there are maybe 7 or 8 of these known to exist, making them rarer than copper 1943's. You must not be too excitable. What is your resting pulse? Like 3 beats per minute?

Send it to me...I'll hold onto it for you

HOLY SH*T! That is worth some big $$$

Send it to PCGS... better yet, take it there yourself.

If anyone knows how to get it safely to grading, it's the folks here.

DEFINITELY get it graded.

I see one online for D but not P. Were they found at both locations?

Take it to a coin dealer and they can send it in for you or call PCGS and ask for assistance on how to send in. I highly r3commend installing the PCGS app, which makes submission easier. Make sure you have good insurance on the shipment.

Tourney64 wrote:Take it to a coin dealer and they can send it in for you or call PCGS and ask for assistance on how to send in. I highly r3commend installing the PCGS app, which makes submission easier. Make sure you have good insurance on the shipment.

I have the app. It's a bit of a learning curve (*things i said 2 years ago, and no progress). The PCGS submission agreement is a tad scary. And I don't want to fill it out wrong. I am messaging them to get guidance.

JobIII wrote:BTW it also 'sounds' like copper, As i bounced it accidentally off the table when i was flipping 1982's for the copper ring.

have you weighed it yet?

Cu cent should be close to 3.1 grams

Cu-plated cents are 2.5 grams

(or use a popsicle stick balance)

NiBullionCu wrote:

JobIII wrote:BTW it also 'sounds' like copper, As i bounced it accidentally off the table when i was flipping 1982's for the copper ring.

have you weighed it yet?

Cu cent should be close to 3.1 grams

Cu-plated cents are 2.5 grams

(or use a popsicle stick balance)

The video showed it on a scale at 3.1 g

68Camaro wrote:
The video showed it on a scale at 3.1 g

oops, my goof. I don't do youtube videos.

Cool, I add my kudos,

and get that thing certified!

I weigh every 1983 cent I come across and I’ve never seen one.

NiBullionCu wrote:

68Camaro wrote:
The video showed it on a scale at 3.1 g

oops, my goof. I don't do youtube videos.
Cool, I add my kudos,
and get that thing certified!

Working on it & Thanks!

Since it weighs 3.1 grams, the next step is authentication. Most coin dealers are not capable of this. They can only make a guess based on their experience. Sometimes they are accurate. Sometimes they are not.

Counterfeits of 1983 coppers outnumber genuine, unaltered coins by a factor of thousands. This is why a reputable grading service is essential.

I wish you well with this.

Time for more coffee.

galenrog wrote:Counterfeits of 1983 coppers outnumber genuine, unaltered coins by a factor of thousands.

I was thinking of this last night, specifically altered dates. In the case of the 1983, the only copper cent that comes close to serving as the foundation for the fake would be a 1963, maybe the '73. Can a 6 or 7 be made to look like an 8? I don't even think that's possible. Enough to fool a casual observer, sure...but faking it for profit, if that was the faker's motive (as opposed to harmless hoaxing), the counterfeiter would have to know the coin would be super scrutinized by professional graders. No way a date fixing gets past them.

Besides date manipulating, how else could a Lincoln cent be forged to have the right look, right sound, and correct weight?

I am in my 60s, and microwelding has been around almost as long as I have been alive.

Even a century ago, altering individual coins was an art form.

When someone skilled is bored, things happen.

My point in my earlier post is that there are few people who can truly authenticate this coin, and they are not likely to own or work in a coin shop. A qualified grading service would be best.

Time for more coffee.

I just learned there’s another translational copper date. The 1982 D small date. I didn’t realize this and didn’t check for it before selling the hoard. When I did a quality check by hand for zincs.

Update?

If your coin looks like the one in the video, one thing that would be interesting is if you decided to sell it as is (might be real/might not) here on this site.

I could foresee someone offering perhaps $500- $1,000- just to take a chance. You could get some quick $ w/o having the hassle of getting it certified.

By the way, I once had a potentially very valuable item. It was a copper nickel blank blanchet, so we know it was minted from 1856-64. I have never seen one anywhere else. Sadly, it was stolen along with lots of other coins I had in November, 2019.

The cops arrested a couple of people and got about 7% of my stuff back. Oh well…

Cu Penny Hoarder wrote:Update?

So to the best of my efforts, nearly nothing is getting done aside from work work and baby work.