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weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:22 pm
by rsk1963
Found a penny that seems to be a complete reverse of the traditional penny. In that it is font and everything is backward and indented rather than out, what in gods name is this guy? I'll be able to post a picture (hopefully the quality will be alright) when I get home.

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:04 pm
by slickeast
I too found an odd cent today. The obverse has the Lincoln Memorial and the reverse has Lincolns head. WEIRD looking coin.

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:12 pm
by fasteddy
Hey slick you high or somepin...turn on a very bright light, with the light on turn the coin over and see if it is still odd looking. ;)

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:16 pm
by slickeast
fasteddy wrote:Hey slick you high or somepin...turn on a very bright light, with the light on turn the coin over and see if it is still odd looking. ;)


Darn, thought i had something. I guess i should eat the M&M's that have W's , E's and 3's on them too.

OK, back to the matter at hand. YES we want to see some pics. It might be hard to get a good pic though

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:34 pm
by rsk1963
HA...
I mean the font, the images, all are reverse i.e. from left to right on the back it reads: tnec eno rather than one cent. Front is the same way everything is backwards, images are imprints (sunken in).

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:54 pm
by rsk1963
yes... what in the f, can anyone help me out?

Image

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:54 pm
by rsk1963
also of course, anyone have a clue for valuations?

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:04 pm
by henrysmedford
I found this-- http://www.coinvaluesmag.com/articles/unexpanded-mirror-brockages-require-special-c/
A brockage is an incuse, mirror-image version of a coin’s design. It is generated when a coin is struck into a planchet or when two previously-struck coins overlap within the striking chamber.

The most desirable kind of brockage is a first impression (“first-strike brockage”) that is sharply defined and shows little or no expansion. Many first-strike brockages are expanded and distorted. The subset that exhibits minimal expansion emerges under special circumstances. These original-size, incuse impressions are often termed “mirror brockages.” Regrettably, the term “mirror brockage” has been indiscriminately applied to brockages that fall far short of the strict standards maintained here.


Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:21 pm
by rsk1963
Excellent, thanks very much for the info.

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:27 pm
by henrysmedford

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:33 pm
by rsk1963
And here is the front.

Again thanks very much.

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Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:40 pm
by henrysmedford
Do you have a gram scale? If so could you post the weight.

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:43 pm
by rsk1963
So two sided brockage (from what i've been reading is traditionally one side messed up...) any clue on valuations?

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:44 pm
by rsk1963
no I do not. Get to one tomorrow... (buy one if I have to)

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:46 pm
by rsk1963
dimenions/thickness levels appear to be the same as a regular penny (ryedale acutally said it was copper)... hand sorting the coppers for wheats and found this monster...

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:48 pm
by rsk1963
see my confusion 'bout this thing?

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:19 pm
by Centsation
Wow that is pretty cool. I'm interested to know how much this thing is worth. It seems like people that collect error coins would pay quite a bit for a coin like this.

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:46 pm
by shinnosuke
rsk1963 wrote:dimenions/thickness levels appear to be the same as a regular penny (ryedale acutally said it was copper)... hand sorting the coppers for wheats and found this monster...


It's dated 1981 so it should be copper.

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:47 pm
by TXBullion
Cool find, wonder what its worth

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:59 pm
by rsk1963
No idea its why i came to yins, cause the collective knowledge here is way bigger than what i know/can easily find

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:19 pm
by henrysmedford
I email Mike Diamond he is the President of Coneca http://www.conecaonline.org and--
Hi Joe.

Regrettably, this is not a genuine error. Someone took an unstruck cent planchet (or similar-sized disc of copper) and squeezed it between two cents.

Best regards,

Mike Diamond

I have a blank planchet and will try to make one and will post what I get.

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:28 pm
by rsk1963
Right on, thanks very much for the info.

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:31 pm
by daviscfad
Post it on coincomunity or coppercoins someone there will no right off the bat i am sure

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:52 pm
by henrysmedford
henrysmedford wrote:I email Mike Diamond he is the President of Coneca http://www.conecaonline.org and--
Hi Joe.

Regrettably, this is not a genuine error. Someone took an unstruck cent planchet (or similar-sized disc of copper) and squeezed it between two cents.

Best regards,

Mike Diamond

I have a blank planchet and will try to make one and will post what I get.


OK today I used a blank copper planchet two cents and a small vise and this is what I got .
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So a large vise might help!

Re: weird penny today

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:19 pm
by rsk1963
Awesome. While I cant say I'm not disappointed (truthfully) it is very good to know, and I can't thank you enough from your CSI Readlcent tests. And of course everyone now knows that this is not a weird "error" but someone just f***ing off. Thanks very much for your help in determining this monster (now apparently a frankenstein, piece mailed together) oddity.