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weight of box

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:51 pm
by kwebb70
how much does an unopened box of zincs weight. brinks & nf string boxes

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:18 pm
by 68Camaro
The coins are 13.8 lbs. Add in a bit for paper or plastic wrappers, and cardboard.

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:56 pm
by HoldingAg
13.8 for the zincs huh? What about a box of all Cu? And while we're at it what about a "typical" mixed box?

Thanks,
HoldingAg

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:18 pm
by 68Camaro
HoldingAg wrote:13.8 for the zincs huh? What about a box of all Cu? And while we're at it what about a "typical" mixed box?

Thanks,
HoldingAg


A shade over 17 pounds (not counting the paper). 3.11 g x 2500 / 456.3 g/lb (use same equation for zincs except they weigh 2.5 g rather than 3.11 g).

Mixed is anything in between, depending on percentage. Multiply whatever you think your copper yield is by the difference (17-13.8 = 3.2) and add it to 13.8.

25% yield would be .25*3.2 = .8 added to 13.8 = 14.6 lb
50% yield would be 1.6+13.8=15.4 lb
75% yield would be 2.4+13.8=16.2 lb

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:52 pm
by gojomoso
68Camaro wrote:
HoldingAg wrote:13.8 for the zincs huh? What about a box of all Cu? And while we're at it what about a "typical" mixed box?

Thanks,
HoldingAg


A shade over 17 pounds (not counting the paper). 3.11 g x 2500 / 456.3 g/lb (use same equation for zincs except they weigh 2.5 g rather than 3.11 g).

Mixed is anything in between, depending on percentage. Multiply whatever you think your copper yield is by the difference (17-13.8 = 3.2) and add it to 13.8.

25% yield would be .25*3.2 = .8 added to 13.8 = 14.6 lb
50% yield would be 1.6+13.8=15.4 lb
75% yield would be 2.4+13.8=16.2 lb


thanks for the info, that'll be handy with my new scale :)

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:07 pm
by 68Camaro
Depending on how accurate you want to be, if you want more precision, weigh 50 wrappers and a box by themselves, next time you get to an empty set. Add that weight to the above.

If you're concerned about wasting your time unwrapping an all zinc box, you can get a good idea of whether this is worth your while by weighing the whole box before you start. Also gives a good estimate of what your yield will be, if there is copper there.

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:24 pm
by ed_vantage17
I weigh my boxes (String) before opening for sorting. Right now they're coming in within an ounce or two of 15Lbs. and netting around 28% Cu.

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:05 am
by 68Camaro
ed_vantage17 wrote:I weigh my boxes (String) before opening for sorting. Right now they're coming in within an ounce or two of 15Lbs. and netting around 28% Cu.


Matches. 28% is just under 14.7 lbs per the formula above. Add in two-tenths for paper and you'd be at 14.9 lbs.

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:16 pm
by gilpo
Would you guys mind sharing the make and model of the scales you guys are using?

Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:19 pm
by ed_vantage17
gilpo wrote:Would you guys mind sharing the make and model of the scales you guys are using?


I have a WeighMax Digital Postal Scale. Weighs in 2/10 oz increments with a max of 75 Lbs. Got it on eBay.

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Re: weight of box

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:03 am
by HoardCopperByTheTon
I forget the brand scale I use.. but it is very high end and accurate to 2 hundredths of a pound. I have rolled both solid boxes of zinc and solid boxes of copper cents. With paper and standard box the zinc box weighs 14.1 pounds and the copper box weighs 17.3 pounds. I imagine the plastic in a brinks box would be close to the weight of the paper so would expect the weights to be pretty close. :mrgreen: