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What is your end game?

Postby Rejinx » Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:17 am

I am new to this hobby, so you may have discussed this before. When the melt ban ends in, lets guess 3 years, and lets guess a melt value of 3 cents per penny. What is your end game? Do you sell your pennies to a person who melts? Do you try to melt? Or do you hold for the long haul?
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby joemac » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:33 am

Well they are almost worth three cents now, they will be worth much more in the future. Personally I am holding and may sell to someone looking to invest in hard assets. Similar to what people have done with junk silver. If the dollar fails, I'd suspect they will be worth quite a bit more than what they are now. I'm hoping 10x face. Hey, we're allowed to dream right?
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby Hawkeye » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:59 am

I doubt if I would ever just sell them as scrap unless I was desperate. I am holding them as a hard money asset, as I also think they will be traded as such in the future. I could be wrong about that, and, if I am, I will probably pass them on to the next generation. Worst case scenario - I cash them in for face value. (which is really not a bad worst case scenario)
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby baggerman » Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:08 pm

I see this as a hard asset (same as AU, AG and real estate) and if by some miracle the dollar does not fail in my lifetime they will go to my grandkids.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby creshka46 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:54 pm

I'm separating out the uglies so I'm pretty sure I'll just scrap those when the time is right. As for the others... I'm not sure. I'll just have to see what the options are.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby willy13 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:52 pm

ill never melt. i will either leave them to my kids or sell/trade similar to junk silver coins if copper goes way up.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby crazypennyguy » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:04 pm

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but I'm inclined towards selling them.
I did it. I've been crazy enough to sort through 10,000 rolls of pennies. Almost makes you think, "some people will do anything to build up a coin collection."
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby everything » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:28 pm

Hold indefinitely, I don't even want to deal with moving them as it is. I'd like to buy a piece of land eventually, bury them, and put the GPS coordinates in my personal safe. My only currency collapse theory is put them in bags of 100/200-500, etc. When bartering, you trade x amount of goods for 500 coppers, or use them to make change when buying/selling with silver coins, etc. If the coming Iran conflict turns into WW IV is the government going to want these back? For instance the USAF ordered 20, 30 thousand bombs from Boeing, each containing 5400 lbs. of explosives, well .. we know where those are going.

I see these common coppers being valued much like wheats eventually, being as they are both copper. I know a dealer who was selling me wheats at two cents, maybe I should revisit that idea.. I just don't know otherwise, as copper is so common and plentiful.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby misteroman » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:41 pm

Melt when they lift the ban
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby mtalbot_ca » Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:08 pm

willy13 wrote:ill never melt. i will either leave them to my kids or sell/trade similar to junk silver coins if copper goes way up.


Same for me.

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Re: What is your end game?

Postby John_doe » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:52 am

joemac wrote:Well they are almost worth three cents now, they will be worth much more in the future. Personally I am holding and may sell to someone looking to invest in hard assets. Similar to what people have done with junk silver. If the dollar fails, I'd suspect they will be worth quite a bit more than what they are now. I'm hoping 10x face. Hey, we're allowed to dream right?



If the dollar collapses it may return to the original exchange vs gold/silver! :D

I think I could spring 2000 coppers for a gold double eagle, or 100 for a 1 oz silver round. I'm thinking copper will be more widely traded than gold/silver in this scenario also.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby everything » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:08 am

How could 2.20 in CU be worth 1 oz. of silver?
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby twoten01 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:51 am

why not, not long ago, 475 zincs would buy you 1 oz of silver
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby Cu Later » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:22 am

i2 will hold for a shtf scenario. im not melting any gold, silver, copper, or any other coin 4 that matter. i really hope u BIG guys melt all ur tons though. more value for my son or future offspring.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby everything » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:32 pm

Sorry twoten, I just did not see why silver would be going down so significantly in price.

I would also fear the government saying they own all those copper pennies and calling them in..
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby twoten01 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm

everything wrote:Sorry twoten, I just did not see why silver would be going down so significantly in price.

I would also fear the government saying they own all those copper pennies and calling them in..


Oh, I am not saying we are heading there again, just saying there was a time not long ago you could get silver for $4.75 oz, and I don't see those days ahead of us, not for a long time, if ever.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby Common Cents » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:53 pm

John_doe wrote:
joemac wrote:Well they are almost worth three cents now, they will be worth much more in the future. Personally I am holding and may sell to someone looking to invest in hard assets. Similar to what people have done with junk silver. If the dollar fails, I'd suspect they will be worth quite a bit more than what they are now. I'm hoping 10x face. Hey, we're allowed to dream right?



If the dollar collapses it may return to the original exchange vs gold/silver! :D

I think I could spring 2000 coppers for a gold double eagle, or 100 for a 1 oz silver round. I'm thinking copper will be more widely traded than gold/silver in this scenario also.


Cheers to you sir for your vision! I think many people here underestimate the need for trading units as the buck crashes. Gold will be priced astronomically and will be used for major purchases. Silver will be priced at a 15/20 to one ratio with gold, and will be used for intermediate sized transactions. But for day to day items, I think there will be a huge demand for copper trading units.

At a minimum, I'm expecting to get 10X face for my pennies, but I think the upside could be much higher depending on how low the dollar swoons. I see the lifting of the melt ban as mostly inconsequential, because it won't be lifted until the percentage of CU pennies in circulation is next to nothing, and the fiat currency will have been severely debased by then. So just like some junk silver gets melted and refined into 10 oz. bars, some pennies will be melted into .999 purity form, but there will still be plenty that stays in coin form and gets traded by investors or in merchant transactions.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby Lemon Thrower » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:58 pm

if the melt ban ended right now, i would convert to FRNs and convert those to Ag.

Cu is a hard asset but its tied to an expanding economy. The beauty of Cu pennies right now is the ability to get them below melt.

Once the melt ban is lifted Cu pennies will trade like sterling or war nicks - the value will be recognizable but people will not be clamoring for them.
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby robroy » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:56 pm

Right now I don't have a true end game. Just storing them against the time I need them for some purpose or just let my kids figure out what to do with them, along with the other things that I've been salting away. I may be a pack rat but the true pc wording today is "accumulator".
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Re: What is your end game?

Postby s3p2 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:51 pm

I'm holding them for as long as I can. Maybe pass them to my kids, maybe sell or trade if copper prices are right. I wont melt them. I know a cent is 95% copper, I don't know or trust a melted blob of former pennies is 95%. This is why we collect cents and not melted blobs of who knows what.
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