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Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:04 am
by JobIII
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220976678935#ht_1246wt_1185


check out this auction before it gets pulled or edited.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:11 am
by rexmerdinus
Nice. Anyone send him a message about them yet?

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:16 am
by JobIII
I did. That's why i left the comment below the link :)

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:19 am
by Z00
I dont think the SELLER is uninformed (besides being a bad speller). He is trying to pass off 2 46 and a non silver 42 with a faulty description.
Woe unto the buyer who is uninformed.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:22 am
by JobIII
Z00 wrote:I dont think the SELLER is uninformed (besides being a bad speller). He is trying to pass off 2 46 and a non silver 42 with a faulty description.
Woe unto the buyer who is uninformed.


Am I wrong? (Big Lebowski reference) Zoo the joke is all of the coins listed are non-silver.

~ JobIII

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:29 am
by Z00
You are not wrong. My point is that I think the seller knows exactly what he is doing and is counting on an uninformed BUYER.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:36 am
by nero12345
Isn't 1942 Silver? i thought it was 42-45?

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:39 am
by PMLurker
I agree with Z00. The seller has quite a bit of other coins listed so he either put up the wrong picture or is trying to be sneaky.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:44 am
by Z00
nero12345 wrote:Isn't 1942 Silver? i thought it was 42-45?

42 was the year of the switch.
The 42's without the large P, D, S over Monticello are NOT silver.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:45 am
by barrytrot
Some 42's are silver, some are not.

You can tell by the giant "P/D/S" on the back. If it's there it is silver.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:54 am
by galenrog
Sent the nimrod a message. I did not infer that hes was deliberately dishonest, but I did suggest he invest in a quality guide on US coins. Also pointed out what the alloys were in his coins and where mint marks should be on war nicks.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:02 am
by JobIII
Hey Galen! Haven't seen you on in a while. hows the sorting going?

That poor seller's going to log in and think his messages are from interested bidders...

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:56 am
by Tantalar
It just goes to show you how easy it is to make money on ebay while having no idea what you are even selling. Damn, I feel stupid. I should be making more on there...lol

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:08 am
by SoFa
I think this happens quite often on ebay (people not knowing which are war nickels).
I wouldn't just assume that the seller did it on purpose.

I bid on and won a lot of 10 or 20 war nickles last year without really looking closely at the photo until after the auction was over. I really believed the seller made an honest mistake and we were able to cancel the sale on good terms after it turned out a bunch of them didn't have the large mint mark.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:24 am
by nero12345
Z00 wrote:
nero12345 wrote:Isn't 1942 Silver? i thought it was 42-45?

42 was the year of the switch.
The 42's without the large P, D, S over Monticello are NOT silver.

good to know, thanks

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:32 am
by blackrabbit
PMLurker wrote:I agree with Z00. The seller has quite a bit of other coins listed so he either put up the wrong picture or is trying to be sneaky.


He put up the right picture. The seller is just being duplicitous, feeding on suckers. However, that type of sustenance will eat your soul.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:36 am
by Z00
Well he took the "silver" out of the listing but kept the "war"
Now do you doubt the attempt to defraud?

He still can't spell nickel though.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:52 am
by SoFa
Z00 wrote:Well he took the "silver" out of the listing but kept the "war"
Now do you doubt the attempt to defraud?

He still can't spell nickel though.


It looks a lot more shady now that he did that.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:45 pm
by JobIII
well they were made during the "war". And the asking price doesn't scream fraud in MHO. If people see the pictures and think silver at this point it's not really anyone's fault but the bidder.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:06 pm
by SoFa
JobIII wrote:well they were made during the "war". And the asking price doesn't scream fraud in MHO. If people see the pictures and think silver at this point it's not really anyone's fault but the bidder.


There is always a war somewhere. So are all nickels "war nickels"?

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:39 pm
by Z00
JobIII wrote:well they were made during the "war". And the asking price doesn't scream fraud in MHO. If people see the pictures and think silver at this point it's not really anyone's fault but the bidder.

I must disagree.
1) The war was over in 1946
2) The term war nickels has long been accepted as relating to those nickels that were produced from silver rather than the strategic metals needed at that time.
3) The seller was caught out and called on his listing yet persists in trying to throw a cloud over the content of the listing in an attempt to drive the price up from uninformed buyers.

He gets no sympathy from me. He is not a new seller.

I just checked on the availabilty of the domain ebay-scammers.com
It is available and I am very tempted to buy it and set up a place where these type of sellers can be highlighted.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:10 pm
by barrytrot
JobIII wrote:well they were made during the "war". And the asking price doesn't scream fraud in MHO. If people see the pictures and think silver at this point it's not really anyone's fault but the bidder.


The seller CLEARLY was trying to scam a few dollars.

JobIII you may want to ask yourself why you are defending evil.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:47 pm
by merchoarder
JobIII wrote:
Z00 wrote:I dont think the SELLER is uninformed (besides being a bad speller). He is trying to pass off 2 46 and a non silver 42 with a faulty description.
Woe unto the buyer who is uninformed.


Am I wrong? (Big Lebowski reference) Zoo the joke is all of the coins listed are non-silver.

~ JobIII

"your not wrong, your just an *******" hahahaha, I kid, just couldn't help myself, love me some Lebowski!!

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:11 am
by JobIII
barrytrot wrote:
JobIII wrote:well they were made during the "war". And the asking price doesn't scream fraud in MHO. If people see the pictures and think silver at this point it's not really anyone's fault but the bidder.


The seller CLEARLY was trying to scam a few dollars.

JobIII you may want to ask yourself why you are defending evil.



Hold up. 3 1940's nickels for $0.60 plus shipping is hardly scamming anyone. The seller removed silver within a few hours of my message. Could the term war be misleading of course. But the listing doesn't specify anything about silver now, so people shouldn't immediately assume these are silver nickels. At this point it would be similar to someone assuming all 1992+ half proofs are 90%...

Is this really an evil listing? I like to think this is a misinformed seller rather than an intentional scam artist.

Barry perhaps I just enjoy debating topics with you.

Re: Ebay and the uninformed seller

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:31 pm
by barrytrot
JobIII wrote:
barrytrot wrote:
JobIII wrote:well they were made during the "war". And the asking price doesn't scream fraud in MHO. If people see the pictures and think silver at this point it's not really anyone's fault but the bidder.


The seller CLEARLY was trying to scam a few dollars.

JobIII you may want to ask yourself why you are defending evil.



Hold up. 3 1940's nickels for $0.60 plus shipping is hardly scamming anyone. The seller removed silver within a few hours of my message. Could the term war be misleading of course. But the listing doesn't specify anything about silver now, so people shouldn't immediately assume these are silver nickels. At this point it would be similar to someone assuming all 1992+ half proofs are 90%...

Is this really an evil listing? I like to think this is a misinformed seller rather than an intentional scam artist.

Barry perhaps I just enjoy debating topics with you.


First, the price is not 0.60 plus shipping. It is an auction which will go for $1.50+ per coin if people think it's REAL.

Second, I too enjoy debate, so I'll give you a pass :)