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CFTC - Rule 587 For Metals and Energy Futures - Phantom Ords

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:08 pm
by silverinvestor
An article just came out, saying CFTC can invoke Rule 587 regarding Energy and Metals futures due to "phantom orders" placed.



The article is vague in many ways, but it implies that the CFTC could possibly null and void the price action on metals due to what they believe is "phantom orders"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-14...



CME Group Inc., the world’s largest futures market, said it will treat inadvertently placed energy and metals trades yesterday as ‘phantom orders,’ though none of the transactions were canceled.

Over a six-minute period, test orders were “inadvertently” placed on the Globex electronic trading system into active energy and metals markets, the Chicago-based company said today in a statement. CME owns the New York Mercantile Exchange, where crude oil, natural gas, heating oil, gasoline, platinum and palladium trade, and the Commodity Exchange in New York, where gold, silver and copper change hands.

That rule governs “phantom trades,” which the exchange defines as transactions caused in error that aren’t authorized or that were made with altered terms such as contract month or price. If CME detects such trades its powers allow “including without limitation, closing the market, deleting bids and offers, and/or suspending new bids and offers,” according to Rule 587.

CME said in the statement. The U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission was also notified, the company said. CME will “address these transactions in accordance with its Rule 587,” according to the statement.



Funny they never had a problem when Oil went up to $140 a barrel all on false future orders, but now that metals are rising, they are saying "phantom orders". The article is so vague as to what they are going to do, I will be watching closely.

Re: CFTC - Rule 587 For Metals and Energy Futures - Phantom

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:13 am
by silverinvestor
A concerned Futures Broker - called the CFTC and asked what the full meaning of the article is. They only told him "we are looking into it and have not decided what to do yet".

The sentiment from the broker is they have put this news article out, in case they decide they want to adjust the prices or say - in a few days time "the price is a dollar less on silver, etc. due to false orders".

The broker feels they have put this out for a reason, because there are mistake orders all the time, but they don't release that info. So he finds is suspicious, they have released this information, except to possibly fall back on it.