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package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:03 am
by mrrosado
The sad thing is that I shipped a Saint Michael the Archangel prayer book to a friend. Maybe the post person thought it was a wad of cash because it was going from a priest to a college campus. I hope they can use the prayer book. Hopefully I'm wrong and the envelope tore itself. However, for us collector's its a reminder to ship expensive stuff in boxes.

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 11:57 am
by blackrabbit
Yea, they probably thought it was drug money and thought the Priest thing was a cover for it.

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 5:58 pm
by messymessy
FatherRosado wrote:The sad thing is that I shipped a Saint Michael the Archangel prayer book to a friend. Maybe the post person thought it was a wad of cash because it was going from a priest to a college campus. I hope they can use the prayer book. Hopefully I'm wrong and the envelope tore itself. However, for us collector's its a reminder to ship expensive stuff in boxes.


Do priests routinely send wads of cash to college campuses?

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:19 am
by rainsonme
If you are using the US postal service, you need to very very tightly package what you send. I used a "one-size-one-price" box (whatever they are called) to ship some coins to a member in St Louis. he never got the coins. A month later I got the neatly cut box top from the postmaster in St Louis and a form to fill out. So I did an experiment, shipping 5 common wheat cents and 1 NIFC half dollar to 3 locations: Indiana, Denver, and St Louis. 15 sealed letters total, mailed on 5 different days. About half arrived intact, the other half either never arrived, or arrived as empty opened letters; one of the Denver letters arrived with a note from the postal service asking if the recipient wanted to file a claim.

I have recieved some coins shipped thru the US Postal service, but they were taped and bound so severly it took me 30 minutes to open them. I suspect that is the key: if it takes a long time to cut thru the bindings, no one will have an easy opportunity.

As to your prayer book, you have cast it onto an unknown sea; you will never know what impact it may have had, but that isnt all bad.

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:10 pm
by Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay
rainsonme wrote:If you are using the US postal service, you need to very very tightly package what you send. I used a "one-size-one-price" box (whatever they are called) to ship some coins to a member in St Louis. he never got the coins. A month later I got the neatly cut box top from the postmaster in St Louis and a form to fill out. So I did an experiment, shipping 5 common wheat cents and 1 NIFC half dollar to 3 locations: Indiana, Denver, and St Louis. 15 sealed letters total, mailed on 5 different days. About half arrived intact, the other half either never arrived, or arrived as empty opened letters; one of the Denver letters arrived with a note from the postal service asking if the recipient wanted to file a claim.

I have recieved some coins shipped thru the US Postal service, but they were taped and bound so severly it took me 30 minutes to open them. I suspect that is the key: if it takes a long time to cut thru the bindings, no one will have an easy opportunity.

As to your prayer book, you have cast it onto an unknown sea; you will never know what impact it may have had, but that isnt all bad.

This is why I have stopped doing coin business via USPS in total.

IF all that happens is you lose coins in shipment, it sucks, but there are far worst things that can happen. By shipping USPS, or even the private carriers, you are exposing your location to bandits. This compromises your security. IF the bandits learn you have received a lot of coins, someone could get the idea to rob you at gunpoint for the mother-loade.

I agree with rainsonme in total about the prayer book! It's casting your bread upon the waters. Who knows who may come into saving grace by this action? :thumbup:

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 2:04 pm
by SoFa
That's too bad about the book.
Between sending and receiving, I've probably had 300 parcels with coins go through the USPS in the past year. Only one went missing (I got reimbursed for that from MCM). Always use tracking and package in a bubble mailer (at a minimum).

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:24 pm
by Z00
The best item for small shipments:

http://www.safetmailer.com/

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:27 am
by mrrosado
messymessy wrote:
FatherRosado wrote:The sad thing is that I shipped a Saint Michael the Archangel prayer book to a friend. Maybe the post person thought it was a wad of cash because it was going from a priest to a college campus. I hope they can use the prayer book. Hopefully I'm wrong and the envelope tore itself. However, for us collector's its a reminder to ship expensive stuff in boxes.


Do priests routinely send wads of cash to college campuses?

lol no. Some priests do help college students abroad but I"m pretty sure they use checks or money orders.

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:44 pm
by kidman232
i sent 3 silver coins to a member on here to have my bubble mailer returned to me the other day. it was ripped from top right corned to middle of his address. look like a box cutter or machine just cut right through it. 3 silver eagles gone.

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:36 pm
by SilverDragon72
kidman232 wrote:i sent 3 silver coins to a member on here to have my bubble mailer returned to me the other day. it was ripped from top right corned to middle of his address. look like a box cutter or machine just cut right through it. 3 silver eagles gone.



:o

:shock:

:evil:

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:57 pm
by Rosco
A deal with beauanderos will show you correct safe mailing
or Marketharmony Tape is cheaper than coin :thumbup:

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:00 am
by rexmerdinus
Anything over $1000 value I always ship via Registered Mail--it's more expensive but well worth the security of being under lock and key until the moment of delivery, as well as a chain of custody within the USPS. For less than that, I'm all about insurance and tracking--it won't stop all nefarious activity, but it will at least deter SFS (sticky fingers syndrome :)) among postal workers.

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:57 am
by InfleXion
Since I got a PO Box I haven't had any issues. It stands to reason that any person contemplating abusing their position to access the contents of someone's package will be less likely to do so if there isn't the prospect of some other random person accessing your mail such as when not under lock and key. Less plausible deniability.

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:13 am
by AGgressive Metal
I've never had anything lost by USPS going out or coming in. Just use common sense - if you send a letter with coins in it that is completely obvious and a unnecessary temptation. All parcels and priority mail have tracking numbers now, so you can check its status online.

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:18 am
by LooseChange
InfleXion wrote:Since I got a PO Box I haven't had any issues. It stands to reason that any person contemplating abusing their position to access the contents of someone's package will be less likely to do so if there isn't the prospect of some other random person accessing your mail such as when not under lock and key.

This is parallel with my thinking, if the package stops at the PO, that's 2-3 less people in the package trail. I do feel I have more security if my mail/packages are locked at the Post Office, instead of sitting in my mailbox by the street or better yet on my front porch all day in front of everyone who drives by.
InfleXion wrote:Less plausible deniability.

Love it :thumbup:

Re: package arrived ripped and without contents!

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:20 am
by blackrabbit
It also helps if your mail carrier likes you. A Christmas tip helps. I remember my parents always tipped the mailman at Christmas time in NY. When I got out here to California I tipped my mail carrier at Christmas and got a very nice thank you card saying I was the only one on the whole route who thought of her on Christmas. She has been super cool ever since, brings my dog treats, honks and waits for me to come out if I need to sign for something, etc. I know plenty of other employees handle the mail till she gets it but I know it is safe in her hands.