france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:28 pmRe: france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:38 pm"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers." ―Princess Leia to Grand Moff Tarkin
Re: france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:44 pmSo they can probably confiscate any metals that they do find in the mail. Maybe now they won't have to keep stealing Mali's gold to pay back Germany.
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:46 pmWow! That is horrible. The have fully surrendered to the banksters. Most of the people in the coin business there are screwed. Lots more unemployment for them. I really hope this does not spread to other nations. The whole western world needs a revolution.
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:49 pmEventually this will happen everywhere. Silver and gold will be bartered or sold, but only locally, and likely on a black market basis. Expect this to happen, rather than being surprized by it. One of the reasons for building a widespread network of trusted members that you can still deal with on a private basis. 
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:50 pmblackrabbit wrote:Wow! That is horrible. The have fully surrendered to the banksters. Most of the people in the coin business there are screwed. Lots more unemployment for them. I really hope this does not spread to other nations. The whole western world needs a revolution.
I just read this item. to ME, that is the missing piece, its DEFCON1.
this might sound strange but that is the worst bit of news, that could happen to us....sure its in France, but...can we really ask, "will it happen here?"....no question is a stupid question, but......the better question might be, "when will it happen here?"
this sucks.
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:52 pmbeauanderos wrote:Eventually this will happen everywhere. Silver and gold will be bartered or sold, but only locally, and likely on a black market basis. Expect this to happen, rather than being surprized by it. One of the reasons for building a widespread network of trusted members that you can still deal with on a private basis.
that's wise....I never thought of that......i'm sol then OB.
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:59 pmbeauanderos wrote:Eventually this will happen everywhere. Silver and gold will be bartered or sold, but only locally, and likely on a black market basis. Expect this to happen, rather than being surprized by it. One of the reasons for building a widespread network of trusted members that you can still deal with on a private basis.
What does this mean?
Private as in non-government or private as in no computer, no cell phone dope deal type coin deals?
BTW I've educated many of my acquaintances about silver and gold.
I'm always very upfront about sharing info for this very purpose.
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:28 pmSomeone posted about Bitmessage recently, a secure message method. I wonder when we will Bitforum?
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:11 pmIdahoCopper wrote:Someone posted about Bitmessage recently, a secure message method. I wonder when we will Bitforum?
No one commented on the Bitmessage thread. I sincerely hope those that read it took a good hard look at it.
And, you could run a pseudo small forum with the broadcast feature. The only problem is that you would have to be sure it is running at least every other day. messages are dropped after 60 hours.
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:44 pmThogey wrote:beauanderos wrote:Eventually this will happen everywhere. Silver and gold will be bartered or sold, but only locally, and likely on a black market basis. Expect this to happen, rather than being surprized by it. One of the reasons for building a widespread network of trusted members that you can still deal with on a private basis.
What does this mean?
Private as in non-government or private as in no computer, no cell phone dope deal type coin deals?
BTW I've educated many of my acquaintances about silver and gold.
I'm always very upfront about sharing info for this very purpose.
When TPTB decide to demonize hoarders as anti-American, when those who buy and sell precious metals appear on Homeland Security watchlists (which will happen in time) the only way to transact will be by private messages, those seeking buyers or sellers and doing so very discreetly.
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:28 amblackrabbit wrote:Wow! That is horrible. The have fully surrendered to the banksters. Most of the people in the coin business there are screwed. Lots more unemployment for them. I really hope this does not spread to other nations. The whole western world needs a revolution.
If you follow the money, it will always lead to the bankers. Who else creates money out of thin air?
Re: france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:21 amCurious. However, no matter how they attempt to tighten control on government post (I suspect with little success) it will be impossible for them to control the contents of the private package delivery services.
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:12 pmBarter will result out of necessity when people are no longer able to make ends meet under conventional circumstances. For example in Greece they have numerous barter currencies and literally thousands of gold dealers in the Attica region because people can't afford outrageous taxes and austerity measures, and want out of the Euro. So I'm not too worried about having to fly under the radar. When the time comes for metals to emerge as superior money we should no longer be the minority.
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:22 pm68Camaro wrote:Curious. However, no matter how they attempt to tighten control on government post (I suspect with little success) it will be impossible for them to control the contents of the private package delivery services.
All they have to do is impost heavy penalties and sting a few carriers with PM shipments.
Everyone will fall into line with metal detectors.
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:46 pmshinnosuke wrote:"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers." ―Princess Leia to Grand Moff Tarkin
"There now, you see Lord Vader?"
"She can be reasonable"
Re: france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:23 pmSimple solution, just mail it inside something else. Like a ounce of gold inside an old junk camera where the battery used to go or whatever. Could you run a business like that? Probably not long term without getting caught, but you could still trade with trusted friends.
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:20 pmAGgressive Metal wrote:Simple solution, just mail it inside something else. Like a ounce of gold inside an old junk camera where the battery used to go or whatever. Could you run a business like that? Probably not long term without getting caught, but you could still trade with trusted friends.
probably. a news station here did a story on Chinese fake IDs. they ordered one, and it came in an empty wallet box. there was a false bottom that came out and the ID was underneath it. If an ID could fit, a pm bar or coin probably could as well.
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:14 pmstlouiscoin wrote:AGgressive Metal wrote:Simple solution, just mail it inside something else. Like a ounce of gold inside an old junk camera where the battery used to go or whatever. Could you run a business like that? Probably not long term without getting caught, but you could still trade with trusted friends.
probably. a news station here did a story on Chinese fake IDs. they ordered one, and it came in an empty wallet box. there was a false bottom that came out and the ID was underneath it. If an ID could fit, a pm bar or coin probably could as well.
Good for gold, not so much for silver. At least not until it's worth more than gold
Re: france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:03 pmFrom the Article:
You can't tell me USPS is up to speed on this already! If they are on this already, did they have prior notice? Can anyone verify this?
*Update: According to a reader, jewelry is included in the ban:
I sold a piece of jewelry to someone in France, via ebay. It was a tie tack with an automotive corporate logo on it.
I packaged it up, and took it to the post office for mailing. The clerk asked me if there was any coins, money, silver, gold, jewelry, etc. in the package going to France. I said there was a piece of jewelry in it (I didn’t know of this new rule prior). She refused to accept the package, due to the new rules.
You can't tell me USPS is up to speed on this already! If they are on this already, did they have prior notice? Can anyone verify this?
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:42 pmVerbane wrote:You can't tell me USPS is up to speed on this already! If they are on this already, did they have prior notice? Can anyone verify this?
I can't verify this specific policy, but US and other western countries have long postal ties going back even before the United Nations and there is some kind of universal postal standards and they all communicate with each other. Its somewhat out of necessity since when a piece of mail arrives in England from the US, for example, it obviously has to be delivered the rest of the way by the Royal Mail, so they need more or less compatible standards on letters and parcels.
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:48 amblackrabbit wrote:Wow! That is horrible. The have fully surrendered to the banksters. Most of the people in the coin business there are screwed. Lots more unemployment for them. I really hope this does not spread to other nations. The whole western world needs a revolution.
Unfortunately, it will likely happen here.
Re: france-bans-shipment-of-gold-silver-in-the-mail
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:10 amYou aren't going to get a lump of metal through a TSA scanner. Zinc and aluminum maybe, but anything like lead, gold, or uranium will instantly show up - no matter how small.
If they wanted to XRF scan your luggage they can even determine the exact purity of any metals you may be trying to push through.
Technology has made lining your shirt with gold thread an impossible way to try and transport gold in a time of confiscation.
If they wanted to XRF scan your luggage they can even determine the exact purity of any metals you may be trying to push through.
Technology has made lining your shirt with gold thread an impossible way to try and transport gold in a time of confiscation.
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:15 pmZenOps wrote:Technology has made lining your shirt with gold thread an impossible way to try and transport gold in a time of confiscation.
This assumes that every airport would be equipped with a gold scanner. That seems a little over the top to me, but of course anything is possible when you are talking about the pork-filled government budget.
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:49 amAGgressive Metal wrote:ZenOps wrote:Technology has made lining your shirt with gold thread an impossible way to try and transport gold in a time of confiscation.
This assumes that every airport would be equipped with a gold scanner. That seems a little over the top to me, but of course anything is possible when you are talking about the pork-filled government budget.
They have molecular scanners already that can tell what every person there ate for breakfast. Not even kidding.. unless they got banned and I missed it.