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Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:18 am
by ZigMeister
Found these 2 bars at a yard sale and had to have them. The guy wanted 5 bucks for the pair but took my $2 offer.

At first I thought they were lead, but now I'm not sure.

Silver in color. Approx. size is 3 1/2 inches long x 1 3/4 inches wide and 1 inch thick. Any ideas?




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Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:42 am
by Lemon Thrower
I would put them in glass of water and measure how much water they displace. That will give you the volume and with the volume and mass in grams you should be able to compute the density and compare to published densities for silver and lead.

they are pretty interesting looking bars in any event.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:46 am
by justoneguy
take them to a scrap yard or pawn shop,
they will tell you what it is.
or scratch it with a key.
lead will go deep easily but silver is much harder + will only make a surface scratch

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:57 am
by avidbrandy
ZigMeister wrote:The guy wanted 5 bucks for the pair but took my $2 offer.


Hey look a good deal. But not good enough. Let's get it cheaper.

Just, brilliant.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:17 am
by Somnophore
That's a lot of silver if it is. Get it tested, doesn't look like lead.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:31 am
by blackrabbit
Rub them on a piece of paper. Lead will leave a grey mark, silver will not. They look like sterling silver bars to me looking at the pictures.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:35 am
by 97guns
i stole the pic and threw 'em up on ebay, we'll split the profits :mrgreen:

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:39 am
by Somnophore
Yeah they do look like silver, not sure what else they could be, they look like hand poured sand cast bricks, top
one has a mark that shows this. What are the dimensions.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:54 pm
by theshoenlebens
Hope they are silver but my guess is tin or some variant.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:03 pm
by Lemon Thrower
avidbrandy wrote:
ZigMeister wrote:The guy wanted 5 bucks for the pair but took my $2 offer.


Hey look a good deal. But not good enough. Let's get it cheaper.

Just, brilliant.


I'll give you $3 for both shipped.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:18 pm
by Rodebaugh
theshoenlebens wrote:Hope they are silver but my guess is tin or some variant.


My vote goes for tin or zinc. Two common metals with low Melt temps. Still cool. ;)

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:46 pm
by slickeast
For less than $1 a pound, you did good.

Now find out what those things are so we can stop wondering. :-)

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:40 pm
by ZigMeister
Rodebaugh wrote:
theshoenlebens wrote:Hope they are silver but my guess is tin or some variant.


My vote goes for tin or zinc. Two common metals with low Melt temps. Still cool. ;)


A friend thinks they may be a Tin based Babbitt Metal. I tried the key test and it did not leave a deep mark so don't think its lead.
Will be visiting a local coin shop Thursday where they can test for silver. I'll let you know what they say.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:21 pm
by Mossy
Ingot wts would be nice.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:38 pm
by AgCollector
I'll say tin.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:43 pm
by Pennysaved
So did the guy say where he acquired them? Pretty cool find at a yard sale.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:56 pm
by OtusLotus
I say it's zinc coated copper... Uncle Sam trying the reverse osmosis trick!

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:31 pm
by ZigMeister
Mossy wrote:Ingot wts would be nice.



Look at the pic...Weights are shown under each bar.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:33 pm
by ZigMeister
Somnophore wrote:Yeah they do look like silver, not sure what else they could be, they look like hand poured sand cast bricks, top
one has a mark that shows this. What are the dimensions.


Approx. size is 3 1/2 inches long x 1 3/4 inches wide and 1 inch thick.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:51 pm
by ZigMeister
Pennysaved wrote:So did the guy say where he acquired them?


No he didn't. I kind of bought them as an afterthought as originally he wanted $5 for the pair and I had thought they were lead and didn't want to pay $5. I was already in my car and ready to leave when I figured I would try the $2 offer. I just yelled out from the car if he would take $2 and he said OK...his son then delivered the bars to the car and I paid him the $2. It was only afterward that I looked at them and realized that they didn't look like lead. Hopefully I'll find out what they are...I am glad I bought them though as they are really neat looking.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:53 pm
by knibloe
Do they sound like silver?

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:01 pm
by ZigMeister
knibloe wrote:Do they sound like silver?


They're too chunky to have any kind of sound as far as I can tell.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:03 pm
by Pennysaved
You gotta love yard sales; it is like treasure hunting and you never know what you are going to run into.

Just having to research some possible treasure you found makes it fun.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:36 am
by brian0918
Based on your rough dimensions, and the average weight of the two, they are not dense enough to be silver. Silver has a density over 10000 kg/m^3, but this stuff is approximately 6000 kg/m^3 (though it could be a higher because of the depressions in the middle). To get a more accurate density, you need to put them in a measuring cup full of water and see how much volume the water rises by. Based on the color and approximate density it is probably tin.

Re: Yard Sale Find - 2 bullion bars

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:01 pm
by Mossy
ZigMeister wrote:
Mossy wrote:Ingot wts would be nice.



Look at the pic...Weights are shown under each bar.
Those photos are blocked on this network and I'm having trouble finding a wireless ISP locally that is accessible using Linux (my personal computers).