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Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:05 pm
by beauanderos
Anyone ever mused about the idea of having a fallback shelter, an enclave... whatever you want to call it, that could be utilized as a defensible gathering point/living compound for any realcenters who chose to gravitate there, just in case things got really bad? I, for one, am a loner in my campaign to survive and thrive during whatever may face us in the future. But you really need a team. One well-prepped individual can survive as long as their supplies do... if they aren't overrun by roving mobs going door to door ransacking premises and scavenging food. At least on this forum we have a lot of like-minded (probably libertarian) people who are already pointed in the same direction. I'm just saying... if someone has the assets to buy a large tract of tillable land, with a well and electricity off the grid, it could be a destination if society disintegrates. Read Rawlins Patriots and you'll get more of my gist.

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:28 pm
by Oakair
Let me know where this ends up being ;)

Im good for some manual labour and some additions to the PM stash, if nothing else...:)

Im 20, have no family to rely on, and no current place to call my own in which to prep...But I can see something coming, and it doesn't look good...I just hope they keep the ski lifts running!!

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:44 pm
by stevkc
beauanderos wrote:if someone has the assets to buy a large tract of tillable land, with a well and electricity off the grid, it could be a destination if society disintegrates.


So, basically you're looking for a place to crash. Nice of you to offer to live on land provided to you by someone else. I'd offer to bring the tin foil hats, but I'm assuming you've got that covered.

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:01 pm
by Treetop
tillable land? how bad might it get? how about purposely seeking out land others are very unlikely to be drawn to, that with the right knowledge you can farm and have water???? thats what I did.

the area where my land is doesnt have official sources of water, but i can deal with that. Lots of places between any population center and my place that are known to have water.

Other interesting details as well. but personally I think this is ideal. Im not wealthy but Ive got all I need and then some. If I had more people I trusted to help do some of the labor my 5 acres could handle a significant amount of folks just fine. After my home is paid off we are going to get another 20 acres, and work on setting up an orchard for future income.... in a different spot then where my land is now. land is pretty cheap here.

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:06 pm
by neilgin1
beauanderos wrote:Anyone ever mused about the idea of having a fallback shelter, an enclave... whatever you want to call it, that could be utilized as a defensible gathering point/living compound for any realcenters who chose to gravitate there, just in case things got really bad? I, for one, am a loner in my campaign to survive and thrive during whatever may face us in the future. But you really need a team. One well-prepped individual can survive as long as their supplies do... if they aren't overrun by roving mobs going door to door ransacking premises and scavenging food. At least on this forum we have a lot of like-minded (probably libertarian) people who are already pointed in the same direction. I'm just saying... if someone has the assets to buy a large tract of tillable land, with a well and electricity off the grid, it could be a destination if society disintegrates. Read Rawlins Patriots and you'll get more of my gist.


its an idea with powerful merit. i'm in this position now. i know the lay of the land, i've been integrating with many in my community, but and i say this without patronizing, its a life, vastly different from petro world, and many who believe they can handle it,,,not the physical, but the mental part, realize midstream, its not for them. Its stillness, its waking up and just drinking in the world around you. Though i;ve dug the well, 460 feet and have water, i'm still waiting on some of the "boys" to do the plumbing and septic...two months with a hose and an outhouse, and i'm perfectly content. i have all the amenities, stove fridge, freezer, internet phone, elec. But the winters are harsh, which is why all my efforts are geared towards getting the plumbing set, the LP tank and LP generator in, and all the firewood split, cured and ready, and i've never been so serene and at peace in my life, AND i'm NOT in hiding from the world, the county seat, 10 miles away is over 4,000 souls, vibrant and i have made many friends as well as those friends of mine 30 years running.

but it is a commiment and headspace that is total. i know of parcels that might serve such an endeavor, so i stand ready to encourage and help such an ideal....when it gets closer, God willing, maybe a more exclusive forum area can be set, for those who have "bought in", with all the gravitas and intent needed.

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:15 pm
by neilgin1
stevkc wrote:
beauanderos wrote:if someone has the assets to buy a large tract of tillable land, with a well and electricity off the grid, it could be a destination if society disintegrates.


So, basically you're looking for a place to crash. Nice of you to offer to live on land provided to you by someone else. I'd offer to bring the tin foil hats, but I'm assuming you've got that covered.


that is bull[excrement], how dare you address beauanderos in such a cur like manner? You with 18 posts know NOTHING of this man,and you speak like that. You're lucky on two accounts, first that you can hide behind a laptop with that talk, if i heard it LIVE, we'd have business, and you dont want no business with me, and second , that i am not moderator, coz i'd BOMB YOU off this forum in the next instant.

when your ribs are showing thru your chest, hungry, you will remember this night. You are marked FOE.

dont [fluff] with me.

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:15 pm
by Treetop
very good points neil..... very true as well... Two people have come to join me in my endeavors only to leave. nothing even got to hard either. they just didnt like breathing in the world as you say..... wasnt the labor they didnt like either.... i have a thought on that but i will leave it be for now....

I also am set up to help others make the leap as things evolve...

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:17 pm
by neilgin1
Treetop wrote:tillable land? how bad might it get? how about purposely seeking out land others are very unlikely to be drawn to, that with the right knowledge you can farm and have water???? thats what I did.

the area where my land is doesnt have official sources of water, but i can deal with that. Lots of places between any population center and my place that are known to have water.

Other interesting details as well. but personally I think this is ideal. Im not wealthy but Ive got all I need and then some. If I had more people I trusted to help do some of the labor my 5 acres could handle a significant amount of folks just fine. After my home is paid off we are going to get another 20 acres, and work on setting up an orchard for future income.... in a different spot then where my land is now. land is pretty cheap here.



you ARE a good man Tree....a valuable collaborator.

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:20 pm
by neilgin1
Treetop wrote:very good points neil..... very true as well... Two people have come to join me in my endeavors only to leave. nothing even got to hard either. they just didnt like breathing in the world as you say..... wasnt the labor they didnt like either.... i have a thought on that but i will leave it be for now....

I also am set up to help others make the leap as things evolve...


thank you new friend, i feel the same, and i also feel, we are kindred spirits, and thats my heart full of joy. We gonna get thru this, i know this more than ever. i have HOPE, respectfully, neil

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:29 pm
by beauanderos
stevkc wrote:
beauanderos wrote:if someone has the assets to buy a large tract of tillable land, with a well and electricity off the grid, it could be a destination if society disintegrates.


So, basically you're looking for a place to crash. Nice of you to offer to live on land provided to you by someone else. I'd offer to bring the tin foil hats, but I'm assuming you've got that covered.

Hey look! Could it be? Do we actually have a Jon Nadler devotee in our midst? :lol: I guess it might be somewhat comforting to be smug enough to assume that our comfortable economic status quo will continue unaffected by all the ills that plague this society, that conditions will never deteriorate, and that we can all go skipping gaily (la la la la la) down the road to financial freedom by hoarding a few coins. I think we've just witnessed the unveiling of Struthio camelus americanus Image

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:35 pm
by Oakair
I think he simply views his hoarding/collecting as an investment...and hasn't put much thought to the impending collapse beyond it being an irrelevant and illogical possibility...

You would think its better to make friends than enemies in a time like this, but hey...at least he has his silver, right ;)

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:47 pm
by WizardTN
I think this thread s/b moved off the public forum.

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:26 am
by Know Common Cents
The viewing of Red Dawn should be a pre-requisite for all new RC members before they're able to post.

Re: Realcenters Stronghold

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:00 pm
by ardorlan
Treetop wrote:tillable land? how bad might it get? how about purposely seeking out land others are very unlikely to be drawn to, that with the right knowledge you can farm and have water???? thats what I did.

the area where my land is doesnt have official sources of water, but i can deal with that. Lots of places between any population center and my place that are known to have water.

Other interesting details as well. but personally I think this is ideal. Im not wealthy but Ive got all I need and then some. If I had more people I trusted to help do some of the labor my 5 acres could handle a significant amount of folks just fine. After my home is paid off we are going to get another 20 acres, and work on setting up an orchard for future income.... in a different spot then where my land is now. land is pretty cheap here.


Where are you located?