careful

This forum is for discussing hunting and collecting US and Canadian circulation Silver Bullion Coins, other types of minted bullion, and other types of precious and base metal investments other than Bullion Pennies and Nickels.

Please Note: These articles are to inform your thinking, not lead it. Only you can decide the best place for your money, and any decision you make will put your money at risk. Information or data included here may have already been overtaken by events – and must be verified elsewhere – should you choose to act on it.

careful

Postby neilgin1 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:54 pm

User avatar
neilgin1
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2561
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:59 am

Re: careful

Postby 68Camaro » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:03 pm

It's a frightening development, but it was inevitable. Now... what to do about it...
In the game of Woke, the goal posts can be moved at any moment, the penalties will apply retroactively and claims of fairness will always lose out to the perpetual right to claim offense.... Bret Stephens
The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it. George Orwell.
We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. Ayn Rand.
User avatar
68Camaro
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 8307
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:12 am
Location: Disney World

Re: careful

Postby beauanderos » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:09 pm

Change your references ... perhaps it could now be referred to as the F***ed. Or, perhaps... we will be. :o It wouldn't surprise me if (shades of Orwellian worlds) websites such as the one linked begin to become targetted and then shut down for purposes of national security... as they were purportedly platforms of dissemination for ideas subversive to the well-being of our country. Just watch. Anyone can launch cyber-attacks and shut down sites, wouldn't surprise me at all if THEY develop teams to do so in times they define as emergencies.
The Hand of God moves WorldsImage
User avatar
beauanderos
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 9827
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:00 am

Re: careful

Postby beauanderos » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:28 pm

Actually, NSA program Echelon has been doing this for years.
The Hand of God moves WorldsImage
User avatar
beauanderos
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 9827
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:00 am

Re: careful

Postby frugalcanuck » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:37 pm

we have Echelon here in ottawa as well. its on Lietrim Rd Ottawa Ontario

I drive by it all the time. Is in an American thing or does every country have one? I know here in Canada we are bending so its easier for the American agencies to shove their security concerns up our A**.
"The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent." John Kenneth Galbraith 1975
frugalcanuck
Penny Hoarding Member
 
Posts: 753
Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:00 am

Re: careful

Postby Hawkeye » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:37 pm

The Fed sucks. What now, punks?
Metal > Paper
User avatar
Hawkeye
Penny Hoarding Member
 
Posts: 954
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:00 pm
Location: The Hawkeye State

Re: careful

Postby OldPeddler » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:05 pm

I knew this was coming 20 years ago. Software such as this has been used by advertisers to follow their adds on radio and TV for years. Our freedom is gone, we live in a POLICE STATE. I can feel free to express my self since I am so old that being pegged a crazy crackpot doesn't bother me a bit. So even if they exacute me no harm will be done. But those of you that still have 50 or more years to live best realize YOU ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. I won't sugest what needs to be done. your generation must work it out for yourself. Does the Spirit OF 76 mean anything to you??
User avatar
OldPeddler
Penny Pincher Member
 
Posts: 123
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:42 pm

Re: careful

Postby Saabman » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:04 pm

Yes... Echleon has been around since Clinton.... but this goes waaaaay beyond Echleon. Write your elected rep's don't relent...this cannot stand!!!!!!!!!!!
Cerca Trova!!!

Happiness does not depend on what you have or who you are. It solely relies on what you think.
-Sid
User avatar
Saabman
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2244
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:47 am
Location: State of Franklin

Re: careful

Postby Morsecode » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:10 pm

Another compelling reason to consider lead as a must-have metal.
Let's Go Brandon Kamala
User avatar
Morsecode
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 4143
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:04 pm
Location: Southern New England

Re: careful

Postby aristobolus » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:20 pm

OldPeddler wrote:I knew this was coming 20 years ago. Software such as this has been used by advertisers to follow their adds on radio and TV for years. Our freedom is gone, we live in a POLICE STATE. I can feel free to express my self since I am so old that being pegged a crazy crackpot doesn't bother me a bit. So even if they exacute me no harm will be done. But those of you that still have 50 or more years to live best realize YOU ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. I won't sugest what needs to be done. your generation must work it out for yourself. Does the Spirit OF 76 mean anything to you??


Some listens to INFOWARS here! ;)
User avatar
aristobolus
Penny Collector Member
 
Posts: 435
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:00 am

Re: careful

Postby neilgin1 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:49 pm

68Camaro wrote:It's a frightening development, but it was inevitable. Now... what to do about it...


way of the coyote.
User avatar
neilgin1
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2561
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:59 am

Re: careful

Postby neilgin1 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:55 pm

OldPeddler wrote:I knew this was coming 20 years ago. Software such as this has been used by advertisers to follow their adds on radio and TV for years. Our freedom is gone, we live in a POLICE STATE. I can feel free to express my self since I am so old that being pegged a crazy crackpot doesn't bother me a bit. So even if they exacute me no harm will be done. But those of you that still have 50 or more years to live best realize YOU ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. I won't sugest what needs to be done. your generation must work it out for yourself. Does the Spirit OF 76 mean anything to you??


it DOES old man, that's why i said, way of the coyote....and thats all i'm GONNA say. i first wrote "careful", then somnebody asked, what to do, and i said, "way of the coyote", thats all needs to be said to the guys that can understand what i mean.
User avatar
neilgin1
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2561
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:59 am

Re: careful

Postby neilgin1 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:59 pm

aristobolus wrote:
OldPeddler wrote:I knew this was coming 20 years ago. Software such as this has been used by advertisers to follow their adds on radio and TV for years. Our freedom is gone, we live in a POLICE STATE. I can feel free to express my self since I am so old that being pegged a crazy crackpot doesn't bother me a bit. So even if they exacute me no harm will be done. But those of you that still have 50 or more years to live best realize YOU ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. I won't sugest what needs to be done. your generation must work it out for yourself. Does the Spirit OF 76 mean anything to you??


Some listens to INFOWARS here! ;)


"INFOWARS"!!! that boy aint all he seems, i know his game, and i wonder exactly WHO's writing his paycheck, ask yourself that. Pretty slick studios, well buffed website...come on, HE's a peddler of DIS info. get ya scared, angry and feeling impotent.
User avatar
neilgin1
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2561
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:59 am

Re: careful

Postby AGCoinHunter » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:02 pm

Fed Fed Fed Fed Fed Fed Fed.....

Fu#K the Fed.
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
- Patrick Henry
User avatar
AGCoinHunter
1000+ Penny Miser Member
 
Posts: 1933
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:00 am
Location: Deep South

Re: careful

Postby neilgin1 » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:04 pm

Saabman wrote:Yes... Echleon has been around since Clinton.... but this goes waaaaay beyond Echleon. Write your elected rep's don't relent...this cannot stand!!!!!!!!!!!


way before, and the more you keep mentioning that word, which should havent been written in the first place, well.....and REALLY, what would writing these "reps" do anyway? except shine a light on you, and this will stand.
User avatar
neilgin1
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2561
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:59 am

Re: careful

Postby Treetop » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:32 am

neilgin1 wrote:"INFOWARS"!!! that boy aint all he seems, i know his game, and i wonder exactly WHO's writing his paycheck, ask yourself that. Pretty slick studios, well buffed website...come on, HE's a peddler of DIS info. get ya scared, angry and feeling impotent.


I get the same feeling honestly. Lots of things he talks about others do not, but he often reshappes stories I happen to have a deeper understanding of.

without a doubt take what he says with a grain of salt even though the basic premise of his work appears undeniable. It still appears part of a divide and conquer stint. Make the opposition look nutty when some things are out of context and other issues....
Treetop
Super Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 3852
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:50 am

Re: careful

Postby OldPeddler » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:31 am

neilgin1 wrote:"INFOWARS"!!! that boy aint all he seems, i know his game, and i wonder exactly WHO's writing his paycheck, ask yourself that. Pretty slick studios, well buffed website...come on, HE's a peddler of DIS info. get ya scared, angry and feeling impotent


I take issue with being acused of spreading DIS info. Wake up and smell the stink. People are being arested for selling and/or giving away food they grow in their back yards. Border Patrol personal are being jailed for shooting and wounding a illegal drug dealer crossing the border. A school teacher is removed from the classroom and sent home for wearing a CROSS to school. A student is supended for reading a BIBLE in school during Her break. FBI is tracking you VIA your cell phone without a warrant. I could go on & on but I would be wasting my time on an idiot.

As far as who writes my paycheck, I dont get one. I live on funds earned after years of hard work and service to my country. The details are nobodys business but mine.

WAKE AND SMELL THE STINK OF A POLICE STATE
User avatar
OldPeddler
Penny Pincher Member
 
Posts: 123
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:42 pm

Re: careful

Postby neilgin1 » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:07 am

OldPeddler wrote:
neilgin1 wrote:"INFOWARS"!!! that boy aint all he seems, i know his game, and i wonder exactly WHO's writing his paycheck, ask yourself that. Pretty slick studios, well buffed website...come on, HE's a peddler of DIS info. get ya scared, angry and feeling impotent


I take issue with being acused of spreading DIS info. Wake up and smell the stink. People are being arested for selling and/or giving away food they grow in their back yards. Border Patrol personal are being jailed for shooting and wounding a illegal drug dealer crossing the border. A school teacher is removed from the classroom and sent home for wearing a CROSS to school. A student is supended for reading a BIBLE in school during Her break. FBI is tracking you VIA your cell phone without a warrant. I could go on & on but I would be wasting my time on an idiot.

As far as who writes my paycheck, I dont get one. I live on funds earned after years of hard work and service to my country. The details are nobodys business but mine.

WAKE AND SMELL THE STINK OF A POLICE STATE

"Old Peddler"...i absolutely BEG your forgiveness, coz it seems like you took my words to be directed at you, and they were not, nor did i mean to offend you for one second, please forgive me. i didnt communicate clearly. it says in 1st Peter to esteem your elders, and i hold to that....it also says esteem others above yourself, and i hold to that. i hold your hard work and service to our country in the highest of esteem. my spirit testifies to my words.

when i referenced, "that boy", i was refering to a well known web media personality. my instinct tells me he isnt everything he purports to be, his theme is always; "them" ALL POWERFUL----"us" NOT....all the while he has slick studio's, great production values, a website designed by pro's---that all takes money, and where does that money come from?...i agree 100% everything you wrote, but the Bible tells us to be as shrewd as snakes, and innocent as doves, Paul says in Romans 13, to be in submission to authority, but as the Lord led Paul, his words were more subversive and powerful than any rebel yell. Sure they get our taxes and our "yes", but they dont get our spirit, God does. All those Roman emperors and Roman soliders and Roman Empire is dead and gone, all their words and edicts, dead and gone, but Paul's words led by the Holy Ghost are living and active, even to this very day. Now the spirit of empire, which is the spirit of babylon, which is anti-christ, just moves from capital to capital thru the centuries. Then it was there, now its here--shrewd as snakes, innocent as doves, which is why i wrote---way of the coyote, lay low, dont make a big fuss in the market place, like these young fools down on Wall Street, stay away from idols and zealots, drink from the Living Waters, and not from the salt water spring of fear that men who are false prophets spew forth in these days, fore they are doing the work of THEIR father, the father of all lies.---the way of the coyote is to build your foundation on the Rock, because yea, though i walk thru the valley of the shadow of death, i will fear no evil, because He is with me. forever. i pray you forgive me for not being clear in word. i meant no offense.
User avatar
neilgin1
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2561
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:59 am

Re: careful

Postby OldPeddler » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:41 am

Apology accepted. I belive you copied 2 quotes together. Would have beter to have made 2 seperate quotes. Then I would not have missunderstood your point. Taking this into consideration your point was well put.
User avatar
OldPeddler
Penny Pincher Member
 
Posts: 123
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:42 pm

Re: careful

Postby hags » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:21 am

The last step of self destructed dominance…….paranoia
User avatar
hags
Penny Pincher Member
 
Posts: 188
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:41 pm

Re: careful

Postby neilgin1 » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:27 am

hags wrote:The last step of self destructed dominance…….paranoia


okay then, but what you might term "paranoia", others might call the repetition of history. you say tomato, i say toemahto, and we'll split the difference.
User avatar
neilgin1
Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 2561
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:59 am

Re: careful

Postby barrytrot » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:33 am

For a police state, it's sure a nice place to live. :)

I think the people that lived behind the iron curtain would beg to differ.

There might be a bunch of laws that are ridiculous, but living in this country is really quite great still!

Yesterday I ate Italian and today I'm eating Chinese. Both from restaurants I actually like :) Name another police state where that is the case.

Additionally, I plan to go to a gym and literally run on a treadmill, INTENTIONALLY :) In other words things are SO GOOD that I actually want to run without going somewhere :) All while watching 10 simultaneous big screen TV's with my ability to tap into the sound of any one of them at any time! The gym also has 2 full court basketball courts and several swimming pools. And they give you all the towels you want, you don't even need to bring one from home :)

Also, I am going to take a walk to the bank and have them give me coins with no service charge. I will carry the money back with me in plain site and I'm 100% positive I will not be accosted.

Each week I take my daughter to a place with PERMANENT bounce-house type things. Permanent! Can you imagine being able to go any time and jump on inflatable giant stuff?

Some times I just decide to go to a movie during the day. And there are 25 theaters within 10 miles of me showing all nature of films, some of which are actually good.

I saw the play, "Wicked" over the weekend and there were like 1,000 or so others there also. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves, I didn't get the sense that we were all being told when to laugh :)



Police States are sure nice these days! :)
User avatar
barrytrot
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 4609
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:00 pm

Re: careful

Postby Mossy » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:41 am

barrytrot wrote:For a police state, it's sure a nice place to live. :)

For now.

It's sort of like a socialist state, until TPTB run out of other people's money.
Mossy
1000+ Penny Miser Member
 
Posts: 1764
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:45 pm

Re: careful

Postby Treetop » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:44 am

Police state is being built. there is no remote doubt of that... Still good for now if you arent one to draw outside the lines to far.... Hard to say what it will become but dominance of the system over the will of the rest of us is undeniable.

We actually have more people jailed then any police state ever did, kinda another topic but still relevant and indicative.
Treetop
Super Post Hoarder
 
Posts: 3852
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:50 am

Re: careful

Postby barrytrot » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:54 am

Treetop wrote:Police state is being built. there is no remote doubt of that... Still good for now if you arent one to draw outside the lines to far.... Hard to say what it will become but dominance of the system over the will of the rest of us is undeniable.

We actually have more people jailed then any police state ever did, kinda another topic but still relevant and indicative.


Is that percentage wise? Or total jail population? Can you site your source for this, please.
User avatar
barrytrot
Too Busy Posting to Hoard Anything Else
 
Posts: 4609
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:00 pm

Next

Return to Silver Bullion, Gold, & other Bullion Metals

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 27 guests

cron