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careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:54 pm
by neilgin1

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:03 pm
by 68Camaro
It's a frightening development, but it was inevitable. Now... what to do about it...

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:09 pm
by beauanderos
Change your references ... perhaps it could now be referred to as the F***ed. Or, perhaps... we will be. :o It wouldn't surprise me if (shades of Orwellian worlds) websites such as the one linked begin to become targetted and then shut down for purposes of national security... as they were purportedly platforms of dissemination for ideas subversive to the well-being of our country. Just watch. Anyone can launch cyber-attacks and shut down sites, wouldn't surprise me at all if THEY develop teams to do so in times they define as emergencies.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:28 pm
by beauanderos
Actually, NSA program Echelon has been doing this for years.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:37 pm
by frugalcanuck
we have Echelon here in ottawa as well. its on Lietrim Rd Ottawa Ontario

I drive by it all the time. Is in an American thing or does every country have one? I know here in Canada we are bending so its easier for the American agencies to shove their security concerns up our A**.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:37 pm
by Hawkeye
The Fed sucks. What now, punks?

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:05 pm
by OldPeddler
I knew this was coming 20 years ago. Software such as this has been used by advertisers to follow their adds on radio and TV for years. Our freedom is gone, we live in a POLICE STATE. I can feel free to express my self since I am so old that being pegged a crazy crackpot doesn't bother me a bit. So even if they exacute me no harm will be done. But those of you that still have 50 or more years to live best realize YOU ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. I won't sugest what needs to be done. your generation must work it out for yourself. Does the Spirit OF 76 mean anything to you??

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:04 pm
by Saabman
Yes... Echleon has been around since Clinton.... but this goes waaaaay beyond Echleon. Write your elected rep's don't relent...this cannot stand!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:10 pm
by Morsecode
Another compelling reason to consider lead as a must-have metal.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:20 pm
by aristobolus
OldPeddler wrote:I knew this was coming 20 years ago. Software such as this has been used by advertisers to follow their adds on radio and TV for years. Our freedom is gone, we live in a POLICE STATE. I can feel free to express my self since I am so old that being pegged a crazy crackpot doesn't bother me a bit. So even if they exacute me no harm will be done. But those of you that still have 50 or more years to live best realize YOU ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. I won't sugest what needs to be done. your generation must work it out for yourself. Does the Spirit OF 76 mean anything to you??


Some listens to INFOWARS here! ;)

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:49 pm
by neilgin1
68Camaro wrote:It's a frightening development, but it was inevitable. Now... what to do about it...


way of the coyote.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:55 pm
by neilgin1
OldPeddler wrote:I knew this was coming 20 years ago. Software such as this has been used by advertisers to follow their adds on radio and TV for years. Our freedom is gone, we live in a POLICE STATE. I can feel free to express my self since I am so old that being pegged a crazy crackpot doesn't bother me a bit. So even if they exacute me no harm will be done. But those of you that still have 50 or more years to live best realize YOU ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. I won't sugest what needs to be done. your generation must work it out for yourself. Does the Spirit OF 76 mean anything to you??


it DOES old man, that's why i said, way of the coyote....and thats all i'm GONNA say. i first wrote "careful", then somnebody asked, what to do, and i said, "way of the coyote", thats all needs to be said to the guys that can understand what i mean.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:59 pm
by neilgin1
aristobolus wrote:
OldPeddler wrote:I knew this was coming 20 years ago. Software such as this has been used by advertisers to follow their adds on radio and TV for years. Our freedom is gone, we live in a POLICE STATE. I can feel free to express my self since I am so old that being pegged a crazy crackpot doesn't bother me a bit. So even if they exacute me no harm will be done. But those of you that still have 50 or more years to live best realize YOU ARE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE. I won't sugest what needs to be done. your generation must work it out for yourself. Does the Spirit OF 76 mean anything to you??


Some listens to INFOWARS here! ;)


"INFOWARS"!!! that boy aint all he seems, i know his game, and i wonder exactly WHO's writing his paycheck, ask yourself that. Pretty slick studios, well buffed website...come on, HE's a peddler of DIS info. get ya scared, angry and feeling impotent.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:02 pm
by AGCoinHunter
Fed Fed Fed Fed Fed Fed Fed.....

Fu#K the Fed.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:04 pm
by neilgin1
Saabman wrote:Yes... Echleon has been around since Clinton.... but this goes waaaaay beyond Echleon. Write your elected rep's don't relent...this cannot stand!!!!!!!!!!!


way before, and the more you keep mentioning that word, which should havent been written in the first place, well.....and REALLY, what would writing these "reps" do anyway? except shine a light on you, and this will stand.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:32 am
by Treetop
neilgin1 wrote:"INFOWARS"!!! that boy aint all he seems, i know his game, and i wonder exactly WHO's writing his paycheck, ask yourself that. Pretty slick studios, well buffed website...come on, HE's a peddler of DIS info. get ya scared, angry and feeling impotent.


I get the same feeling honestly. Lots of things he talks about others do not, but he often reshappes stories I happen to have a deeper understanding of.

without a doubt take what he says with a grain of salt even though the basic premise of his work appears undeniable. It still appears part of a divide and conquer stint. Make the opposition look nutty when some things are out of context and other issues....

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:31 am
by OldPeddler
neilgin1 wrote:"INFOWARS"!!! that boy aint all he seems, i know his game, and i wonder exactly WHO's writing his paycheck, ask yourself that. Pretty slick studios, well buffed website...come on, HE's a peddler of DIS info. get ya scared, angry and feeling impotent


I take issue with being acused of spreading DIS info. Wake up and smell the stink. People are being arested for selling and/or giving away food they grow in their back yards. Border Patrol personal are being jailed for shooting and wounding a illegal drug dealer crossing the border. A school teacher is removed from the classroom and sent home for wearing a CROSS to school. A student is supended for reading a BIBLE in school during Her break. FBI is tracking you VIA your cell phone without a warrant. I could go on & on but I would be wasting my time on an idiot.

As far as who writes my paycheck, I dont get one. I live on funds earned after years of hard work and service to my country. The details are nobodys business but mine.

WAKE AND SMELL THE STINK OF A POLICE STATE

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:07 am
by neilgin1
OldPeddler wrote:
neilgin1 wrote:"INFOWARS"!!! that boy aint all he seems, i know his game, and i wonder exactly WHO's writing his paycheck, ask yourself that. Pretty slick studios, well buffed website...come on, HE's a peddler of DIS info. get ya scared, angry and feeling impotent


I take issue with being acused of spreading DIS info. Wake up and smell the stink. People are being arested for selling and/or giving away food they grow in their back yards. Border Patrol personal are being jailed for shooting and wounding a illegal drug dealer crossing the border. A school teacher is removed from the classroom and sent home for wearing a CROSS to school. A student is supended for reading a BIBLE in school during Her break. FBI is tracking you VIA your cell phone without a warrant. I could go on & on but I would be wasting my time on an idiot.

As far as who writes my paycheck, I dont get one. I live on funds earned after years of hard work and service to my country. The details are nobodys business but mine.

WAKE AND SMELL THE STINK OF A POLICE STATE

"Old Peddler"...i absolutely BEG your forgiveness, coz it seems like you took my words to be directed at you, and they were not, nor did i mean to offend you for one second, please forgive me. i didnt communicate clearly. it says in 1st Peter to esteem your elders, and i hold to that....it also says esteem others above yourself, and i hold to that. i hold your hard work and service to our country in the highest of esteem. my spirit testifies to my words.

when i referenced, "that boy", i was refering to a well known web media personality. my instinct tells me he isnt everything he purports to be, his theme is always; "them" ALL POWERFUL----"us" NOT....all the while he has slick studio's, great production values, a website designed by pro's---that all takes money, and where does that money come from?...i agree 100% everything you wrote, but the Bible tells us to be as shrewd as snakes, and innocent as doves, Paul says in Romans 13, to be in submission to authority, but as the Lord led Paul, his words were more subversive and powerful than any rebel yell. Sure they get our taxes and our "yes", but they dont get our spirit, God does. All those Roman emperors and Roman soliders and Roman Empire is dead and gone, all their words and edicts, dead and gone, but Paul's words led by the Holy Ghost are living and active, even to this very day. Now the spirit of empire, which is the spirit of babylon, which is anti-christ, just moves from capital to capital thru the centuries. Then it was there, now its here--shrewd as snakes, innocent as doves, which is why i wrote---way of the coyote, lay low, dont make a big fuss in the market place, like these young fools down on Wall Street, stay away from idols and zealots, drink from the Living Waters, and not from the salt water spring of fear that men who are false prophets spew forth in these days, fore they are doing the work of THEIR father, the father of all lies.---the way of the coyote is to build your foundation on the Rock, because yea, though i walk thru the valley of the shadow of death, i will fear no evil, because He is with me. forever. i pray you forgive me for not being clear in word. i meant no offense.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:41 am
by OldPeddler
Apology accepted. I belive you copied 2 quotes together. Would have beter to have made 2 seperate quotes. Then I would not have missunderstood your point. Taking this into consideration your point was well put.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:21 am
by hags
The last step of self destructed dominance…….paranoia

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:27 am
by neilgin1
hags wrote:The last step of self destructed dominance…….paranoia


okay then, but what you might term "paranoia", others might call the repetition of history. you say tomato, i say toemahto, and we'll split the difference.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:33 am
by barrytrot
For a police state, it's sure a nice place to live. :)

I think the people that lived behind the iron curtain would beg to differ.

There might be a bunch of laws that are ridiculous, but living in this country is really quite great still!

Yesterday I ate Italian and today I'm eating Chinese. Both from restaurants I actually like :) Name another police state where that is the case.

Additionally, I plan to go to a gym and literally run on a treadmill, INTENTIONALLY :) In other words things are SO GOOD that I actually want to run without going somewhere :) All while watching 10 simultaneous big screen TV's with my ability to tap into the sound of any one of them at any time! The gym also has 2 full court basketball courts and several swimming pools. And they give you all the towels you want, you don't even need to bring one from home :)

Also, I am going to take a walk to the bank and have them give me coins with no service charge. I will carry the money back with me in plain site and I'm 100% positive I will not be accosted.

Each week I take my daughter to a place with PERMANENT bounce-house type things. Permanent! Can you imagine being able to go any time and jump on inflatable giant stuff?

Some times I just decide to go to a movie during the day. And there are 25 theaters within 10 miles of me showing all nature of films, some of which are actually good.

I saw the play, "Wicked" over the weekend and there were like 1,000 or so others there also. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves, I didn't get the sense that we were all being told when to laugh :)



Police States are sure nice these days! :)

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:41 am
by Mossy
barrytrot wrote:For a police state, it's sure a nice place to live. :)

For now.

It's sort of like a socialist state, until TPTB run out of other people's money.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:44 am
by Treetop
Police state is being built. there is no remote doubt of that... Still good for now if you arent one to draw outside the lines to far.... Hard to say what it will become but dominance of the system over the will of the rest of us is undeniable.

We actually have more people jailed then any police state ever did, kinda another topic but still relevant and indicative.

Re: careful

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:54 am
by barrytrot
Treetop wrote:Police state is being built. there is no remote doubt of that... Still good for now if you arent one to draw outside the lines to far.... Hard to say what it will become but dominance of the system over the will of the rest of us is undeniable.

We actually have more people jailed then any police state ever did, kinda another topic but still relevant and indicative.


Is that percentage wise? Or total jail population? Can you site your source for this, please.