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Where are good safe spots?

I was thinking burying it or putting it in a old electronic such as a VCR etc.

Problem with that is I myself have a metal detector and I'm also scared in putting it in electronics is a risk if they get stolen. Putting it in a everyday item risks getting thrown out.

http://realcent.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8403

Here's a pretty in depth thread on the topic from about a month ago, hope it helps.

I believe the best place to hold up that pile of metal is in a safety deposit box. But to the ones with the means there are private depository company's out there. Like in the Da Vinci Code the movie.

My house!

henrysmedford wrote:My house!

hehe... yeah i offer my house as well. I promise you will never find it.

not all in one place.

Rastatodd wrote:I believe the best place to hold up that pile of metal is in a safety deposit box. But to the ones with the means there are private depository company's out there. Like in the Da Vinci Code the movie.

I'm not a big fan of that option. Sounds paranoid, I know. However, the contents of a safty deposit box are not insured, also I believe you have to disclose what you are putting in there. If things get bad and banks start to close for real (why many stack physical in the first place) you may lose access to your valuables.

I would actually prefer a private storage facility.

If you bury a stash in a pvc pipe with waterproof endcaps how deep would it have to burried so that an average metal detector would not pick it up? Would it help to maybe dig a hole two feet deep then some dirt and a concrete patio block then more dirt?

stonewallrabbitry wrote:If you bury a stash in a pvc pipe with waterproof endcaps how deep would it have to burried so that an average metal detector would not pick it up? Would it help to maybe dig a hole two feet deep then some dirt and a concrete patio block then more dirt?

PVC will turn your silver green....

The police blocked a co-worker from going anywhere near her home due to a natural gas explosion one mile away from her house. Any of a dozen other events could do the same to you as well.

I suggest splitting the stash, and putting them places far apart, if at all possible, so you have /something/ accessible.

Mossy wrote:The police blocked a co-worker from going anywhere near her home due to a natural gas explosion one mile away from her house. Any of a dozen other events could do the same to you as well.

I suggest splitting the stash, and putting them places far apart, if at all possible, so you have /something/ accessible.

What happens when you can't remember where these places are anymore, and you didn't tell your spouse, or children because of trust issues?

highroller4321 wrote:

stonewallrabbitry wrote:If you bury a stash in a pvc pipe with waterproof endcaps how deep would it have to burried so that an average metal detector would not pick it up? Would it help to maybe dig a hole two feet deep then some dirt and a concrete patio block then more dirt?

PVC will turn your silver green....

Not only an issue with PVC turning silver green, but I've also heard of stashes/caches put in PVC popping up out of the ground after a soaking rain.

too bad my great-grandfather isnt around anymore he passed a few years back
one of his favorite hobbies was making furniture with secret compartments built in
still have quite a few of his pieces furnishing my home he always did beautiful work

Rastatodd wrote:I believe the best place to hold up that pile of metal is in a safety deposit box. But to the ones with the means there are private depository company's out there. Like in the Da Vinci Code the movie.

I had posted this in the past--
Not at this bank in my town. You are on your own the bank insurance does not cover you. I have herd that the bank paid off the losses to keep it on the QT. There has been no follow up after this story broke.
'Caper' at Chase bank was like Redding case
Burglars got in bank shortly after remodel
By Anita Burke
Mail Tribune
August 27, 2009 2:00 AM
The burglary of a Chase bank vault in south Medford this summer echoes a sophisticated break-in at a
Redding bank five years ago, investigators said.
Bank employees arriving to open the bank at 81 E. Stewart Ave. on Monday, July 20, found that the
vault had been breached over the weekend and items had been taken from safe deposit boxes, Medford
police Detective Sgt. Mike Budreau said. "Somebody had to know the bank and its premises pretty
well," he said, noting that the bank has a complete security system including cameras. The security
cameras didn't show the inside of the vault, though.
The branch, a former Washington Mutual outlet, had undergone some remodeling — including a new
carpet, paint and furniture during the spring — to prepare it for reopening as a Chase branch on June 1,
said Darcy Donahoe-Wilmot, a Seattle-based spokeswoman for Chase. JPMorgan Chase bought
Washington Mutual last year.
Noting that bank burglaries are far rarer than bank robberies, investigators from the Medford police,
Oregon State Police and the FBI sought out other unusual burglaries at banks.
"We've searched other agencies' cases," Budreau said. "Redding's case has a lot of similarities."
In May 2004 in Redding, burglars apparently slipped into a Bank of America branch on Hilltop Drive
through a rooftop access door and chiseled their way into a concrete vault, the Redding Record
Searchlight reported at the time.
According to Record Searchlight archives, investigators suspected that the thieves might have spent
more than a month cracking through the concrete into the vault. An alarm on the vault was tripped
during the night numerous times in the five weeks before the crime was discovered, police told the
Redding paper at the time.
Each time, officers found the bank's doors and windows secure. However, they never checked the roof,
news accounts reported.
When bank employees arrived one Monday morning in mid-May and couldn't open the vault, they
blamed a mechanical malfunction of the security system. After almost two days of trying to open the
vault, the bank brought in its own security specialists to drill it open and discovered items strewn about
inside.
The Bank of America branch had been remodeled just before the burglary, and investigators from the
Redding police and FBI interviewed bank employees, painters and air-conditioning maintenance crews
and other workers who might have been at the bank. Rewards were offered for information about the
case, but it went unsolved.

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Budreau said he believed the statute of limitations on prosecuting the California case expired this
spring.
Redding police didn't return calls about the case this week.
Medford investigators had remained mum about the details of the Chase break-in, declining until this
week to even disclose details about what was targeted or taken in the burglary, which they called
substantial and sophisticated.
They had described the crime as "quite a caper," and "the stuff movies are made of."
Details about how the vault was entered still haven't been released. Neither was the total estimated
value of the thieves' haul, although Budreau said police were working with people who had leased safe
deposit boxes and lost valuables.
Donahoe-Wilmot said the bank was assisting clients so they could make insurance claims. Federal
deposit insurance doesn't cover items stored in safe deposit boxes. Experts quoted at bankrate.com
recommend adding endorsements or "personal-articles floaters" to homeowners' insurance policies to
guarantee that items stored in safe deposit boxes are protected.
Reach reporter Anita Burke at 776-4485, or e-mail aburke@mailtribune.com.

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HonestAbe wrote: What happens when you can't remember where these places are anymore, and you didn't tell your spouse, or children because of trust issues?

You need me to say the obvious?

I dislike such silly questions.

Mossy wrote:

HonestAbe wrote: What happens when you can't remember where these places are anymore, and you didn't tell your spouse, or children because of trust issues?

You need me to say the obvious?

I dislike such silly questions.

Please tell me the obvious!

I guess you just don't want to think about getting old, but you know what? It creeps up on you and you forget.

My wife worked for a bank and was a branch officer for many years before she retired, and can't tell you how many people ended up in nursing homes with dementia, etc. Being the only survivior of their immediate(because of divorce of a dysfunctional family) and totaly forgetting about 100's of thousands of dollars, that the state got when they died, because they thought they were going to live forever and didn't write a will. It could have gone to someone who cared for them in their darkest moments, but gee, they forgot.

Who's being silly now?

theo wrote:

Rastatodd wrote:I believe the best place to hold up that pile of metal is in a safety deposit box. But to the ones with the means there are private depository company's out there. Like in the Da Vinci Code the movie.

I'm not a big fan of that option. Sounds paranoid, I know. However, the contents of a safty deposit box are not insured, also I believe you have to disclose what you are putting in there. If things get bad and banks start to close for real (why many stack physical in the first place) you may lose access to your valuables.

I would actually prefer a private storage facility.

You don't have to tell them what you are putting in there.

They are not insured but what really is gonna happen to them? They are locked up in a fireproof room.

Sure I guess the banks could shut down and they take all your stuff. Unlikely

one, i dont have to worry, i dont own silver.

two-9mm gold dot LE rounds, .556 mm M855's, 7.62X39mm.

three-questions like this make me leery of you, no offense "needler420" .....even a moniker containing the number's 420, make me leery, for those that dont know, "420" is freek short hand for cannabis, and in these days, what appears to be white may be black, and what is black may appear to be white.

that is all. careful shipmates.

HonestAbe wrote:

Mossy wrote:

HonestAbe wrote: What happens when you can't remember where these places are anymore, and you didn't tell your spouse, or children because of trust issues?

You need me to say the obvious?

I dislike such silly questions.

Please tell me the obvious!

Did you not just say it? It's forgotten, it's lost.

neilgin1 wrote:one, i dont have to worry, i dont own silver.

two-9mm gold dot LE rounds, .556 mm M855's, 7.62X39mm.

three-questions like this make me leery of you, no offense "needler420" .....even a moniker containing the number's 420, make me leery, for those that dont know, "420" is freek short hand for cannabis, and in these days, what appears to be white may be black, and what is black may appear to be white.

that is all. careful shipmates.

Guy's asking for help keeping his stash secure, I'm not sure I understand your response? Can you explain?

justj2k78 wrote:

neilgin1 wrote:one, i dont have to worry, i dont own silver.

two-9mm gold dot LE rounds, .556 mm M855's, 7.62X39mm.

three-questions like this make me leery of you, no offense "needler420" .....even a moniker containing the number's 420, make me leery, for those that dont know, "420" is freek short hand for cannabis, and in these days, what appears to be white may be black, and what is black may appear to be white.

that is all. careful shipmates.

Guy's asking for help keeping his stash secure, I'm not sure I understand your response? Can you explain?

Neil is implying that talking to a newer member about where we hide our silver might lead to those places to be searched more frequently during a robbery.

I think.

me thinks neil's mind tends to wonder quite often, but i enjoy him

justj2k78 wrote:

neilgin1 wrote:one, i dont have to worry, i dont own silver.

two-9mm gold dot LE rounds, .556 mm M855's, 7.62X39mm.

three-questions like this make me leery of you, no offense "needler420" .....even a moniker containing the number's 420, make me leery, for those that dont know, "420" is freek short hand for cannabis, and in these days, what appears to be white may be black, and what is black may appear to be white.

that is all. careful shipmates.

Guy's asking for help keeping his stash secure, I'm not sure I understand your response? Can you explain?

"Just", i write this with the UTMOST RESPECT, and in a calm "voice", just so you know where my heart is, ok? the question is bogus, immature and ill-advised,"where to hide a stash" To even ask such a sensitive topic on a non secure mode of communication is foolish, at best, and devious at its worst. The bailing wire is coming off this whole thing quickly, i know you know this, but this isnt a game anymore, things are going to get deadly serious very soon, and the old way of life is going away. i realize you might think me "paranoid", but just be very careful. Not everyone on cyber forums are who they seem,. and seemingly innocent statements can take a turn for the worst case scenario one can imagine. i parse things into two camps, "profitable" or "non profitable", and its becoming clearer to me, that public postings on such a sensitive topic, ie. hard currency, PM's , etc, is falling into the non profitable exercise. i enjoy this fellowship, but i believe a very ill wind blows, where security trumps non secure cyber fellowship. Breaks my heart to say that, but its not a game anymore. very respectfully, neil

Corsair wrote:

justj2k78 wrote:

neilgin1 wrote:one, i dont have to worry, i dont own silver.

two-9mm gold dot LE rounds, .556 mm M855's, 7.62X39mm.

three-questions like this make me leery of you, no offense "needler420" .....even a moniker containing the number's 420, make me leery, for those that dont know, "420" is freek short hand for cannabis, and in these days, what appears to be white may be black, and what is black may appear to be white.

that is all. careful shipmates.

Guy's asking for help keeping his stash secure, I'm not sure I understand your response? Can you explain?

Neil is implying that talking to a newer member about where we hide our silver might lead to those places to be searched more frequently during a robbery.

I think.

true, but thats why i included item number two...this isnt a game. its deadly serious.

kidman232 wrote:me thinks neil's mind tends to wonder quite often, but i enjoy him

i enjoy you too bud, my mind doesnt wonder nor wander, i see things...and brother, you dont want to see what i see, nor live in my dreams, my nightmares. i just want to say this in love, and it has NOTHING to do with "religion"===draw near to God, and He'll draw near to you, you will walk thru the valley of the shadow of death, and you will fear no evil, because He is with you, always.