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This weeks 11/14 got a real UK pound as 1 in 50 are fake. See below. Also at one of the banks the normal teller was off and when Franklin ask to look inside the coin counter she the teller who was working said that she said that she did not know how. So I said come over here and I will will show you how and that is were the pound came from.
How do you spot a fake pound coin?
The number of fake £1 coins in circulation now stands at more than 30 million, according to the Royal Mint. How do you know if you've been given one? That £1 coin in your pocket could be worthless. The number of fake pound coins in circulation has doubled in the past five years and one in every 50 is now counterfeit.
THE ANSWER Indistinct lettering or wrong typeface on edge Queen's head and pattern on reverse should both be upright when coin is turned over Design on reverse should correspond with official design for year of its issue
Number of fake £1 coins 'doubles' It's illegal to make or use counterfeited coins and the Royal Mint says people must hand them in if they think they have one. But how can you tell? It all depends on the quality of the counterfeit, but key signs include a poorly defined ribbed edge, the wrong typeface and an indistinct design or bust of the Queen. A fake can also be slightly different in colour. "Current fakes are what we call 'soapy' in the coin business," says Garry Day, who works for a leading coin dealer, AH Baldwin. "This means the marking and detail on them, like the queen's head, are blurred and not very distinct." Poor workmanship Another way to identify a fake is to check the alignment of the coin. Hold it so the Queen's head is upright and facing you - when you turn the coin over, the pattern on the reverse should also be upright. Fakes can often be at an angle. The Royal Mint's online design portfolio can also be used to easily identify what's genuine and what's not. Since they were introduced in 1983, the design on the reverse of the coins has changed every year.
WHO, WHAT, WHY?
A regular feature in the BBC News Magazine - aiming to answer some of the questions behind the headlines Often the year and the design do not correspond on a fake. Also, the Latin motto on the edge of the coin should correspond to the right year. A simple test at any automated vending machine can also identify a suspect coin. A lot of counterfeit coins are rejected, often leaving you grappling to find another coin in your purse or pocket. But ultimately, how easy it is to identify a fake comes down to its quality. The good news is the fakes are getting worse, according to some experts. "Quality is definitely dropping and fakes are now quite obvious, even to the untrained eye," says Mr Day, who has been studying the problem. "The workmanship isn't what it used to be and most are pretty easy to spot. People just need to know what they are looking for."
uthminsta wrote:Good stuff. I looked through all the pictures again... the bezel on the ancient coin, is it possibly made of silver too?
I added those picks to compare what I got in a recent trip to the bank. Just about the same mix of coins half the country away.
The roman coin is not silver. Not sure why it's turned black. I think it was cause by heat because the bezel looks like it's been heated to fit perfectly around the coin which is not round.
Dates back to 270AD to 274AD....still looking for an exact identification and mint. Not bad for 1700+ years old!
JONAS - Oops, I guess I should check the author of a post before I open my mouth. But yeah, it's a pretty neat find.
MEDFORD - I hope my girls eventually get to the point where they will ask about "cleaning out the counter." I guarantee Ruthie would do it... she's the kind of girl who, when we go to Wal-Mart, runs to the CoinStar, checks the feeder basket and coin return, then gets down on her hands and knees, and looks around/under it to see if anything fell on the floor. I don't think she would be above asking for the "free junk."
uthminsta wrote:runs to the CoinStar, checks the feeder basket and coin return, then gets down on her hands and knees, and looks around/under it to see if anything fell on the floor.
uthminsta wrote:runs to the CoinStar, checks the feeder basket and coin return, then gets down on her hands and knees, and looks around/under it to see if anything fell on the floor.
Are you sure she's not MY kid???? I do that too
Dude those are fightin words.
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