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Help ID this coin?

Postby mishra142 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:25 am

Found this while sorting pennies. It came out the copper side of the ryedale. Its pretty toasty it says either 1850 or 60 on one side with a 1 above. Pictures are from my phone they aren't great sorry.

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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby 68Camaro » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:35 am

Weight, diameter?

Almost looks like a very worn $1 gold piece.
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Postby hobo finds » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:44 am

I think 68 is right! That would be a nice find :clap:
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Postby Romalae » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:12 am

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Looks pretty convincing to me. Excellent find!
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby mishra142 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:25 am

I was thinking gold to but thought surely not. Any way of knowing for sure? It's pretty much same diameter as a penny is have to weigh it when I get home.
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby NHsorter » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:33 am

Dude, nice! I think 68 is right as well by the looks of it. Hold a penny in one hand and this coin in the other. This coin should be noticeably much heavier. When you get home weigh it and that should just about confirm it. I think it is so beat up that it's only worth the gold value so no harn in scratching it on a stone to do an acid test. I am rooting for you. Where did you find this???
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Postby xippi » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:47 am

NHsorter wrote:Dude, nice! I think 68 is right as well by the looks of it. Hold a penny in one hand and this coin in the other. This coin should be noticeably much heavier. When you get home weigh it and that should just about confirm it. I think it is so beat up that it's only worth the gold value so no harn in scratching it on a stone to do an acid test. I am rooting for you. Where did you find this???


"I think it is so beat up that it's only worth the gold value so no harn in scratching it on a stone to do an acid test"

I say send it to PCGS! :P

Very cool find! :clap: :clap:
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby mishra142 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:53 am

Well i weighed it but my scale only weights in 5 gram incriments. A zinc penny weighs 0 on my scale this coin weighs 5 grams. It does feel heavier than a zinc as well. I dont have an acid test kit so I may take it to a jewlery store or pawn shop to see if they will test it for me. I got this out of a $50 penny bag from a bank that I get all their penny bags weeky. I've had some mega wheat scores from this bank in the past (like 10-15fv wheats from a $50 bag)
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Postby 68Camaro » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:59 am

mishra142 wrote:Well i weighed it but my scale only weights in 5 gram incriments. A zinc penny weighs 0 on my scale this coin weighs 5 grams. It does feel heavier than a zinc as well. I dont have an acid test kit so I may take it to a jewlery store or pawn shop to see if they will test it for me. I got this out of a $50 penny bag from a bank that I get all their penny bags weeky. I've had some mega wheat scores from this bank in the past (like 10-15fv wheats from a $50 bag)


Your scale isn't terribly convincing, but the coin should weigh LESS than a zinc penny, if it's a 1 dollar gold piece. Should weigh well under 1.7 grams.
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby mishra142 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:03 pm

Diameter is exactly the same as a penny
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Postby mishra142 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:19 pm

I cleaning it up a little bit and there is clearly a B below the date. Which makes me believe it is not a gold dollar.

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Postby NHsorter » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:21 pm

Oh, dang. Maybe some foreign coin. When you said it was the same size as a penny, I got even more excited and thought it might be a $3 gold piece. Dang, all logical thinking goes right out the door when the thought of free gold comes up. :lol:
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Postby mishra142 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:25 pm

I found a 1850 grote on google looks similar. May be one of those.
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby NiBullionCu » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:25 pm

Austria, 1 Kreuzer
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Postby mishra142 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:33 pm

I think nibullioncu is right..... Dang! On well lol thanks for the help guys.
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby hobo finds » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:36 pm

It is still copper :thumbup:
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby Romalae » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:37 pm

And here I was, searching all over the place for 1850s Bombay-mint coins. I agree with NiBullionCu and hobo finds after looking at the provided image.
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Postby OtusLotus » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:00 pm

I always say that Realcent has the BEST detectives!!!
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Postby henrysmedford » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:22 pm

looks like more the one realcenter has found that one---http://realcent.org/search.php?keywords=kreuzer+
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby Cent1225 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:35 pm

This has been one of the most interesting threads I have read. It had its mystery, anticipation, reality then letdown. Better that a sappy movie!
I was rooting for the gold peice, but still a cool find. Anything 160+ years old still out in the "wild" is still pretty cool to find.
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby Robarons » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:17 pm

It would have been more likely to find a $2.50 gold piece in penny rolls than a $1 gold piece. I think the $1 gold pieces are the smallest coin ever minted by the US Mint (or maybe it was the 3 cent silver)
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby Romalae » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:57 pm

So would this be, like, the Austrian equivalent of a Wheat Cent or an Indian Head Cent? Because if so, then the probability of finding one of those in Austrian circulation is quite low, and much much lower in American circulation.
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Re: Help ID this coin?

Postby scyther » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:22 pm

Robarons wrote:It would have been more likely to find a $2.50 gold piece in penny rolls than a $1 gold piece. I think the $1 gold pieces are the smallest coin ever minted by the US Mint (or maybe it was the 3 cent silver)

Yeah, I was thinking that too. If I remember correctly the 3 cent silver piece is the lightest coin, and the one dollar gold piece is the smallest.
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