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[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

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there is no reason to vote, your vote does not count.

I knew a man that worked as a voting machine technician, he said I don`t know why we vote because the machine is set up to elect the ONE that the conspiracy wants.

who is the Conspiracy, he did not know , but he did tell me who would be elected before each election.

this man is dead now so I can say what he wanted to say and could not.

when he was hired he flew to the Capital, and there was a polition with him that introduced him to a lot of men is "STUFFED SHIRTS" is what I call them.

he was talked to and hired that day, as a favor to helping the polition get elected, he was elected anyway but had to give a big show.

fighting this is a loosing battle, it will not work, and no this has nothing to do with to much TV, it is fact.

I know this because he showed me how the voting machines are set up, or I should say rigged.

I set a machine up myself with instructions from him, then was told what to do to throw 75% to 90% of the vote to the candidate of choice.

GUESS WHAT IT WORKED.

I voted this machine two hundred times.

So Bubba is Pissed or not your vote will not matter.

now I`am sure there will be opinions, but I know what I saw.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND BUBBA



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Okay, 'nuff said about that. Please tell us, in your opinion.... how do we get this country back to one "of the people, by the people, for the people"??

[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

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there is no reason to vote, your vote does not count.

I knew a man that worked as a voting machine technician, he said I don`t know why we vote because the machine is set up to elect the ONE that the conspiracy wants.

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Okay, 'nuff said about that. Please tell us, in your opinion.... how do we get this country back to one "of the people, by the people, for the people"??

No, on second thought... this is too important to let pass. Blow the whistle. Give details. Where did this happen? When did this happen? Don't say it's too hush-hush. We the People need to know the truth.

[Redneck]

"It's not the people who vote that count.
It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

Besides that.

Big money controls media and its content. (newspaper, magazines, radio, movies and the big one TV)

The dumbed down American public is only visually stimulated these days.

Big money also controls congress and its agencies. One of those agencies is the FCC that controls the airwaves with a IRON FIST...

The chance of having a national venue (TV network) to voice opposing views and the status quo is nill....

One might say there is still the internet.

However, there are bills pending right now that will restrict and or remove your right to view opposing material to the status quo. (aka Internet censorship)



Since we did nothing to remove and prosecute the criminals in our government when they first appeared, the time to enact change from the ballot box has passed a long, long time ago.



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[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

"It's not the people who vote that count.
It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

Besides that.

Big money controls media and its content. (newspaper, magazines, radio, movies and the big one TV)

The dumbed down American public is only visually stimulated these days.

Big money also controls congress and its agencies. One of those agencies is the FCC that controls the airwaves with a IRON FIST...

The chance of having a national venue (TV network) to voice opposing views and the status quo is nill....

One might say there is still the internet.

However, there are bills pending right now that will restrict and or remove your right to view opposing material to the status quo. (aka Internet censorship)



Since we did nothing to remove and prosecute the criminals in our government when they first appeared, the time to enact change from the ballot box has passed a long, long time ago.



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Good grief! I am becoming weary of reading "it's too late to do anything about it now" stuff. Nonsense. What are you going to do.... just idly pass the time as our country "progressively" shifts to a dictatorship??! If so, then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

Go ahead, hand over your guns now. After all, it's "too late" to stop them from taking them now, isn't it?

Go ahead, hand over your precious metals, coins, and other wealth you may have worked your ass off to accumulate. After all, it's too late to stop them now, isn't it? And on that issue, shame on you, Comrade, for thinking you could dare to own more than the rest of the people.

The voters in Iran are fighting against rigged voting machines. If voters in Iran can fight ,under pain of cruel public execution against a totalitarian form of government for justice, certainly we can do the same.

Edit: I am logging off now to start making phone calls for our annual precint meetings. I am a TEA Party activist and we are making an impact. Vote Ron Paul!

[Beau]

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all this voting machine rigging was going on back in the 1980`s on up until now.

since I rigged a machine they have changed to more computer type machines, but it is still being done.

I can`t prove it now, but why would they stop when they did it back then.

I know it was done on the old machines, so computers are easier than when I did it.



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[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

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all this voting machine rigging was going on back in the 1980`s on up until now.

since I rigged a machine they have changed to more computer type machines, but it is still being done.

I can`t prove it now, but why would they stop when they did it back then.

I know it was done on the old machines, so computers are easier than when I did it.



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I don't know what state you are speaking of, so I cannot be specific about the laws involved. In some states there is no statue of limitations for certain types of fraud. Also, at the federal level, there is no statue of limitations for certain types of fraud. Blow the whistle! Go to someone you trust and spill the beans.

[justoneguy]

[quote="Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay
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Edit: I am logging off now to start making phone calls for our annual precint meetings. I am a TEA Party activist and we are making an impact. Vote Ron Paul![/quote].

Thanks sheik, we all need to be much more active like that.
i talk to people all the time, less than 1 in 10 get it.
everyone calls me a conspericy nut case.
but the main thing i'm up in their face about is deficit spending.
if you would spend $1 a minute, it would take you 12 days to spend 1 million dollars,
31 years to spend a billion, + 31,000 years to spend a trillion dollars.
our country owes about 200 trillion now + more tomorrow.
how fast are they printing this money everyone calls an american dollar ??
how long will anyone think it has value?

[Redneck]

"It's not the people who vote that count.
It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

Besides that.

Big money controls media and its content. (newspaper, magazines, radio, movies and the big one TV)

The dumbed down American public is only visually stimulated these days.

Big money also controls congress and its agencies. One of those agencies is the FCC that controls the airwaves with a IRON FIST...

The chance of having a national venue (TV network) to voice opposing views and the status quo is nill....

One might say there is still the internet.

However, there are bills pending right now that will restrict and or remove your right to view opposing material to the status quo. (aka Internet censorship)



Since we did nothing to remove and prosecute the criminals in our government when they first appeared, the time to enact change from the ballot box has passed a long, long time ago.



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Good grief! I am becoming weary of reading "it's too late to do anything about it now" stuff. Nonsense. What are you going to do.... just idly pass the time as our country "progressively" shifts to a dictatorship??! If so, then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
Go ahead, hand over your guns now. After all, it's "too late" to stop them from taking them now, isn't it?

Go ahead, hand over your precious metals, coins, and other wealth you may have worked your ass off to accumulate. After all, it's too late to stop them now, isn't it? And on that issue, shame on you, Comrade, for thinking you could dare to own more than the rest of the people.

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Who are you to judge.

You know nothing about me.

I see you as a self rightous, condescending piece of [shucks], who thinks they have the solution to everything...

The voters in Iran are fighting against rigged voting machines. If voters in Iran can fight ,under pain of cruel public execution against a totalitarian form of government for justice, certainly we can do the same.

Didn't you say fighting was wrong...???

Edit: I am logging off now to start making phone calls for our annual precint meetings. I am a TEA Party activist and we are making an impact. Vote Ron Paul!

Would you like a [fluffing] pat on the back ???

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[Thogey]

Hey redneck,

Why did he piss you off so much? I read his response as a rhetorical one,not trying to smack you down.

[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

[quote="Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay
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Edit: I am logging off now to start making phone calls for our annual precint meetings. I am a TEA Party activist and we are making an impact. Vote Ron Paul![/quote].

Thanks sheik, we all need to be much more active like that.
i talk to people all the time, less than 1 in 10 get it.
everyone calls me a conspericy nut case.
but the main thing i'm up in their face about is deficit spending.
if you would spend $1 a minute, it would take you 12 days to spend 1 million dollars,
31 years to spend a billion, + 31,000 years to spend a trillion dollars.
our country owes about 200 trillion now + more tomorrow.
how fast are they printing this money everyone calls an american dollar ??
how long will anyone think it has value?[/quote]

Thanks justoneguy!!!

[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

"It's not the people who vote that count.
It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

Besides that.

Big money controls media and its content. (newspaper, magazines, radio, movies and the big one TV)

The dumbed down American public is only visually stimulated these days.

Big money also controls congress and its agencies. One of those agencies is the FCC that controls the airwaves with a IRON FIST...

The chance of having a national venue (TV network) to voice opposing views and the status quo is nill....

One might say there is still the internet.

However, there are bills pending right now that will restrict and or remove your right to view opposing material to the status quo. (aka Internet censorship)



Since we did nothing to remove and prosecute the criminals in our government when they first appeared, the time to enact change from the ballot box has passed a long, long time ago.



>

Good grief! I am becoming weary of reading "it's too late to do anything about it now" stuff. Nonsense. What are you going to do.... just idly pass the time as our country "progressively" shifts to a dictatorship??! If so, then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
Go ahead, hand over your guns now. After all, it's "too late" to stop them from taking them now, isn't it?

Go ahead, hand over your precious metals, coins, and other wealth you may have worked your ass off to accumulate. After all, it's too late to stop them now, isn't it? And on that issue, shame on you, Comrade, for thinking you could dare to own more than the rest of the people.

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Who are you to judge.

You know nothing about me.

I see you as a self rightous, condescending piece of [shucks], who thinks they have the solution to everything...

The voters in Iran are fighting against rigged voting machines. If voters in Iran can fight ,under pain of cruel public execution against a totalitarian form of government for justice, certainly we can do the same.

Didn't you say fighting was wrong...???

Edit: I am logging off now to start making phone calls for our annual precint meetings. I am a TEA Party activist and we are making an impact. Vote Ron Paul!

Would you like a [fluffing] pat on the back ???

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No Redneck, I don't want a pat on the back. I want the survivalists on this forum to change tactics. The best defense is a good offense. Why wait for the SHTF? Why not enact changes that restore our Republic? It is doable, but only if we try.

You said "the time to enact change from the ballot box has passed a long, long time ago". I could not possibly disagree more. In fact, if you really feel that way... psychologically you are already defeated. You are now doing exactly what "they" want... nothing. By doing nothing it gives them all the power they need to do their something. And that something is further restricting our freedoms.

You are right, I don't know you very well at all. Almost always I enjoy your comments. I am not trying to piss you off, but I am trying to get you to re-think your position. I want to get you fired up enough that you will actually do something. Get other people energized to organize and work together. That is what I believe will save our nation.

If that pisses you off so much you want to call me a self-righteous, condesending peice of [shucks]... hey man, fire away! I am man enough to handle it. But, while you are that worked up... go organize your neighbors to get out the vote! We need it.

[Redneck]

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If so, then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

I, am not part of the problem.
(hence one of the reasons I was pissed off)

I play by the rules.

However...

Our rulers make the rules and change the rules as their needs see fit.


I follow the laws, pay my taxes and vote.

However...

Lawmakers do not follow the laws set forth by them, Senators, Congressmen and the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States do not pay their fair share of taxes and or avoid them with impunity and or without penalty.

And last but not least, Representatives do not represent why I voted for them and what I voted for once they are in office.

Yet somehow you want me to believe that if I or anyone else keep on trying, things will change.

I just don't see that happening anytime soon enough to avoid the tidal wave that is heading our way.

Things are going to have to get a lot worse before the majority wakes up and the people have had enough.

Unfortunately, by that time our options will be limited.


As far as voting goes, election fraud is rampant and the media does nothing to investigate and or report it.

Therefore the media is influenced "controlled" by these very same people.

They have a agenda.

Fair and Honest have no place in their agenda.

Since voting has become computerized it is even easier to get the results they require to
fufill their agenda.

Hence the reason I posted,

"It's not the people who vote that count.
It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)



So what can be done?

Until we return to paper ballots with no absentee ballots (except for military serving outside the country) and having your hand stamped with ink that does not wash off so no one can vote twice, can we hope to even attempt, to battle election fraud.

Not only that, we then have to have representatives from each and all parties count and verify each and every ballot at the polling location the vote was placed.

No exit polling. No national reporting. No winner declared till the official vote has all been counted. No matter how long it takes.

All this has a ZERO chance of happening.

Why...???

Because they have a good thing going and they know it.

And even if we did change it, there's still the Electoral College.

The Electoral College is who is supposed to vote the peoples will. However, they are not
required by law to do so.

So in the end, all you can do is vote and hope. Not very inspiring in my book.

Having said all that, I will still vote and support anybody challenging the status quo as it does not hurt to try, even if it is futile.

As far as my comments prior to this post.
Since I do not know you either, I feel that it is only proper for me to retract calling you a piece of [shucks] .

Please accept my apology.


There is one other thing.

Never, ever, elude to that I'm a closet socialist or believe in collectivism.


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[silverlover]

This is getting ridiculous. Anyone who thinks there will be a SHTF scenario or a bloody revolution in your own streets is living in a fantasy world. It's NOT going to happen. Not in this lifetime anyway. And also, I love precious metals for my own reasons but I'm not blind to the fact that they are as worthless as FRN's in a true sense. Steel I can see, copper too, but if a SHTF scenario does happen the only thing that will be of any value will be things that you can use, not things that are shiny and make you starry eyed.

[OldPeddler]

When all else fails go to the book. THE BIBLE and pray.

[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

Redneck, I would like to apologize to you for over-reacting to your original post. Never, ever did I intend to insinuate you are a socialist. Not by any means.

It sounds like you are doing your part. Please keep it up! It is an uphill battle for all of us. We must be ever vigilant of those we have elected. Make them understand we no longer have any tolerance for "funny stuff". It is already happening. Elected R's are already compromising their integrity. We must hold their feet to the fire and keep them honest!

Thanks for all the good you do!

[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

This is getting ridiculous. Anyone who thinks there will be a SHTF scenario or a bloody revolution in your own streets is living in a fantasy world. It's NOT going to happen. Not in this lifetime anyway. And also, I love precious metals for my own reasons but I'm not blind to the fact that they are as worthless as FRN's in a true sense. Steel I can see, copper too, but if a SHTF scenario does happen the only thing that will be of any value will be things that you can use, not things that are shiny and make you starry eyed.

It has already happened. Hurricane Katrina and four other hurricanes hit our southern coasts in less than two years. Resources were spread too thin and emergency supply lines failed. There was so much anarchy and lawlessness in New Orleans that terrified survivors shot at rescuers trying to help them. Local police ordered the population to be disarmed. They were, at gun point by private contractors, then left to fend off thugs on their own. Those are verifiable facts.

Welcome to RealCent, silverlover.

[Rosco]

I live in Liberal Lane County in Oregon and three county comm. rigged some events to add staff for each one, Got shot down by public comments at a County board meeting an Now a Judge from Coastal County found them guilty of violating open meeting laws in a Civil case an they are currently Libel to pay for their own Defense lawyers

Its not over but some times We do Win on keeping them honest. Tea Party an AFP an Active local businesspeople did the Job

i WAS PART OF THE CROWD at several of the meetings

We now have three conservative Commissioners an they Know who elected them along with the Two Liberals Hope springs for next year

[Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay]

Way to go, Rosco!!! Now that's what I'm talking about!