APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

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APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby pennypicker » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:12 am

I've always been a big fan of APMEX and I made my first credit card purchase from them back in 2011 when their credit card user fee was 3%. I made a purchase from them a few months ago and saw that they raised their credit card user fee to 3 1/2%.

Today I went to make a purchase and at the last minute I noticed they have raised their credit card/paypal user fee to 4% :o Of course they sugar coat this increase by saying they now offer a 4% cash discount when paying by bank wire/check. Funny how a price "increase" is somehow seen as a "discount".
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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby 68Camaro » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:27 pm

So send a check...
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Postby wheeler_dealer » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:45 pm

Retailers pay 4% of customer purchase price to credit card companies for processing this is normal cost of doing business getting passed through. Hence the fee at payment time. Why penalize every customer.
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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby natsb88 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:45 pm

3% is a standard base rate. A company with the volume APMEX does is paying about 2% in fees (maybe less). But APMEX is likely factoring in chargebacks and other fraud they have to deal with from credit cards and PayPal orders and throwing that cost back just at the credit card and PayPal orders instead of building it into their pricing across the board.
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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby pennypicker » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:48 pm

68Camaro wrote:So send a check...

I did this time. I used to enjoy the next day shipping when you used a credit card but with the increase to 4% I'll just be patient, send a check and wait the extra shipping time.
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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby fansubs_ca » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:09 am

I was suprised APMEX took credit cards at all because I know what they can cost to
process and how narrow the margins are on PMs...at least the margins with anyone
you _want_ to deal with. ;)

Kitco never took credit cards, just bank wire or check, of course I always used a
check because it's cheaper. They guy I bought junk silver from in North Dakota
was always paid in cash because it was an in person transaction so I can't
reasonably expect anything other than cash to be acceptable due to it's zero
default risk.

Though it's been about 6 year now since I bought any PMs other than the 2 Silver
Eagles I bought from a friend. I haven't sold any either, just holding even.
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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby Rustynail » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:48 am

The 4% "discount" is worth sending a check, I have them set up on my bill pay as well as a couple others that occasionally offer some hard to pass up deals.
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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby Double3 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:31 am

I'm too cheap to pay even 0.5% more so I always send a check when ordering online.
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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby Cu Penny Hoarder » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:30 pm

Rustynail wrote:The 4% "discount" is worth sending a check, I have them set up on my bill pay as well as a couple others that occasionally offer some hard to pass up deals.


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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby Cu Penny Hoarder » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:36 pm

In my experience with Apmex, they tend to ship much quicker when you pay with a bank cashiers check.

If you are a regular customer and pay with a personal check, they usually ship the product in about 7 days.

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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby Nickelless » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:09 pm

Cu Penny Hoarder wrote:
Rustynail wrote:The 4% "discount" is worth sending a check, I have them set up on my bill pay as well as a couple others that occasionally offer some hard to pass up deals.


Is there an echo in here?


I fixed it. ;)
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Re: APMEX is putting on the "squeeze".

Postby KeepStacking » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:32 pm

wheeler_dealer wrote:Retailers pay 4% of customer purchase price to credit card companies for processing this is normal cost of doing business getting passed through. Hence the fee at payment time. Why penalize every customer.


Retailers are working with much, much larger profit margins than what you will find in bullion deals.
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Postby Recyclersteve » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:37 am

It could be worse. Imagine being in England and having to pay the 20% VAT tax for precious metals, which was 17% until fairly recently. VAT stands for Value Added Tax, which is quite the misnomer because I can't understand what value a tax adds to a PM purchase. Oh well...
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