The Test---May Open interest at 107,111

[neilgin1]

Tues morn, 10 March, a couple hours before the opening the OI is 107k plus......thru the months, I've noticed that when the suppressors of Ag futures when the OI is around 100k, will start shorting, and the OI goes up to 105-107k....meanwhile the dollar is screaming upward, about .70 at this writing to 98.20......this is what usually happens before THEY gang rape silver futures which stand at 15.70 ish basis May.

lets see if they do it again....THEY could be putting USD/Silver spreads on, or just naked short selling in size...I don't know.

But it'll be interesting to see, watch, if these humps give the silver futures a $1.00 plus shellacking to the downside today.

Nobody really wants to stand in the way of a "bank" prop desk pounding the board, which is really an a quasi gvt entity "painting the tape"........and if several entities can do thus, its really NOT a free market, because these entities, the TBTF bank prop desks have an implicit "go wild" ticket from the gvt . Gosh, it must just be like printing money for these guys...very little risk.

SO....if crimex silver gets a dollar plus pounding and we see the open interest go from 107k to say 102-103 tomorrow, that's a "tell".

"rule of law"?..."free markets?" "price discovery?"...bull, ...."Badges?, we don't need no stinking badges!

[mishra142]

neil,

dumb question. where do I go to see the current OI?

[neilgin1]

neil,

dumb question. where do I go to see the current OI?

no question is dumb....here

http://tfc-charts.w2d.com/marketquotes/SI_.html

n.

[mishra142]

Thanks.

[Morsecode]

I do so love reading the unadulterated version of things...even when I only understand bits and pieces of it. The details may fly over my head; the truth seems plain enough.

thanks, Mr. Neil

[neilgin1]

I do so love reading the unadulterated version of things...even when I only understand bits and pieces of it. The details may fly over my head; the truth seems plain enough.

thanks, Mr. Neil

well then let me try and explain, we've noticed in the last years, since the $47 top, which probably scared the heck out of the evil ones. (in futures, a contract, is called a "car", so if I say "car", you'll know I don't mean a GM hunk of plastic) you've noticed that the down days have been violent, $1 plus down, while the up days don't have the pop.

Open interest is this, there is a buyer of say 1 car, and matched against this buyer is a seller, this is open interest. So this morning the open interest is 107,794 cars...contracts. Remember last week, on the board (futures) we were mingling in the low to mid $16 mark?.....the open interest was , I think around 100,000 cars, then we did a lil smack down to the current level of 15.60...the open interest goes up to 107,000 cars , which means something or someone put on 7,000 cars "short", counting on the price to go down.

Now against every "short" seller is a long, a buyer....but its the power of either side that counts, lets just speculate that the number of short sellers are 4 LARGE institutions, and the number of buyers are 30 to 50. (just guessing)....who has the most power?

the four large,usually bank prop desks. So, yesterday, stocks...the DJIA got cratered, went down 300 plus points, usually that's when the silver suppressor's strike, today?.....Wednesday...maybe another down day in stocks...MAYBE. So these four large entities will throw another 1,000-2,000 cars into the market short selling, trying to drive silver past the $15, and set off the now beleaguered longs wanting to end the pain, so they just WANT OUT. Hence, they'll sell in the upper $14 area, maybe all the way down to 14.50.

Now when these longs sell, the short sellers will take profit by BUYING these cars off of desperate sellers.....they were short sellers at say....$16 in thousands of cars, and buy these shorts back at 14.50-14.80, which is a hefty profit for their bank or other such foul combine.........when a short seller takes a profit, and a buyer takes his loss, that subtracts from the open interest, maybe taking the open interest from 107,000 contracts to 102,000/103,000 contracts...this is what I've been seeing for a while now.

But at the same time, in the physical markets we swim, demand for silver coins, rounds, ingots has never been greater,which to me just underlines how "cooked" the futures markets have become.....true, that we might have the fiat to buy a roll of 25 toz of silver Maple Leaf's for $500....and that represents a premium of $4-5 a toz for each coin. Some guys get aggravated because the avg cost of their stack is in the 20's, with the futures in the 15's....don't worry, you hold the silver, at what your resources will allow you.

MY CONCERN is that when silver POPS, these criminals will slap a 50% "windfall tax" on PM dealings, to which I retort, "if a tree falls in the forest and nobodies there...did it really fall?"....nuff said. n

[pennypicker]

Thanks Neil for taking the time to explain your thoughts in layman's terms. You as well as others here on the boards often speak in a foreign language (high finance) and though much of it passes over my head I still get the gist of it all--keep stacking

[mishra142]

Good call Neil pretty good smack down this morning so far.

[johnbrickner]

I am often amazed at the awareness displayed on this forum.

[neilgin1]

I am often amazed at the awareness displayed on this forum.

Johnny, its almost 0800 and the board quote for May is 15.60, but more importantly the open interest went up, from 107,000 + to 110,247, an increase of almost 3,000 cars, on a day of narrow range, 3,000 new shorts, 3,000 new longs, and my feeling is the 3,000 new shorts come from the 4 Ultra large pirate firms, while the 3,000 new longs, might be an amalgamation of smaller hedge funds ($100 mln plus in assets) and large speculators (guys that can flip 100 car orders around) and God knows who else.

so, I feel the future smackdown is upon us, say somewhere between 14.00-14.50, where the four pirate firms will be happy to take their profit....these guys must think of the thin silver futures market like an ATM.

I might be wrong, but if I was with these degenerates, that's what i'd be doing....in the old daze, pit trading, we'd all find out where the stop loss orders were congregated, usually at the same chart points every off floor tech spec was looking, and go "gunning for stops".........what that means is, in a weak thin market, slowly load up on shorts higher, this was pork bellies, but i'll make the price may silver.

You'd have shorts from the $16 area, and now we're messing around in the 15.60-35 area.....the hourly shows the bottom at 15.25, and spec's will cluster stops say between 15.10 and 15.00, with another raft of stops just below the psychologically important 15.00 mark....say anywhere from 14.90 to 14.70........in numbers...now since we NO LONGER have trading pits, you don't get the tenor of the trading in your ear and instinct, you gotta preplace your buy back order on the computer , say bidding 14.55 on 50, 14.45 on 50, and 14.37 on a 100 cars, assuming you had 200 shorts on....with the 14.37 bid, if it doesn't get hit after 20 seconds of the break, you cancel the 14.37 bid on the 100, and real quick replace it with a 14.70 bid...I've watched old pit buddies with these F###### computers and that's how fast they move.....besides, if you have the pirates ALSO at the same time, trying to buy back 6,000 shorts, you better move quick.

that's the reason I would advise NO ONE here to even DREAM of trading silver futures.....gone are the days where an avg guy can trade one, or two cars, maybe even 10 cars....its like running between a herd of brontosaurus's. the upside is, you don't get stepped on, and the downside is, you do. (post add.....I HOPE I AM ....wrong, and we see silver trade into the $17 dollar range)

what its like for the average guy to trade silver futures:

[neilgin1]

13 Mar 2015.......0640......news coming across the wire of the Greeks exiting the EU......and another open interest climb from 110,227 contracts to 112,064 cars, while remaining BASICALLY static at 15.53......we get to witness this together, the "Grexit" could be the shove, I count roughly 10,000 cars in "strong hands", and these banks could throw ANOTHER 10,000 at this poor excuse of a market.

these aren't "banks" in the traditional sense, they are socialistic criminal enterprises, run by criminals....where's the true price discovery of a free market?.....you might say these criminals are now longs....please!! where is the deliverable silver, is it in exchange approved warehouses?

personally, I say again, for us stackers, THIS IS A GIFT!!!

anyway, ya'll have a great day....great weekend, first weekend, one can actually take meat and cook it outside on the B-B-Q!

[neilgin1]

this is odd, American equities getting slammed, the USD just skyrocketing, which USUALLY provides the grist for silver to body slammed, yet its flat on the day........maybe these humps bear raids are FAILING?

GOOD!....I hope the blood at JP Morgan and the other prop desks is flowing like a river.

[neilgin1]

NOPE.....I don't think the smackdown is going to work, its 17 Mar 2015, and this just crossed the wire about the "board" gold market from ZH

"For no good reason aside from the algos had their fun to the downside and crude ran its stops, precious metals' futures have suddenly exploded higher on heavy volume... The surge in gold saw approximately $1.2 billion notional traded..."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-1 ... illion-bid

[Shazbot57]

NOPE.....I don't think the smackdown is going to work, its 17 Mar 2015, and this just crossed the wire about the "board" gold market from ZH

"For no good reason aside from the algos had their fun to the downside and crude ran its stops, precious metals' futures have suddenly exploded higher on heavy volume... The surge in gold saw approximately $1.2 billion notional traded..."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-1 ... illion-bid

Did thumbody get a peak at Janet's notes for tomorrow? Hmmmh?

[neilgin1]

Shaz, I just saw this lil tidbit....its unremarkable except for one line:

"People have no place else to put their money, and the stock market is getting more than its share. It's very likely that something has to give here. " Sam Zell

"People have no place else to put their money

this article, which highlights high net worth ..........peepul, whining and moaning...maybe scared (good) crying about this dysfunctional global economy

here's the URL
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-1 ... deja-vu-gl

also, you'll read about these guys, say allocating 10% of their "portfolio" in metals...what if these men suddenly get VERY frightened, and lose their trust in any paper instrument?....and decide to ramp up to 60-75%?

you could be talking anywhere from 50 to $150 billion slashing its way into the domestic PM PYHSICAL market.

I still maintain.....silver trades up to 150-300, all over the place....then another spike to $750-1000, with Au at 15,000.

crazy?

I had the same response in 98-99, when I said and trade, Crude Oil, first stop $70, then 120. everybody said I was nutz and probably sniffing paint solvents.....

a-yup.
"

[Recyclersteve]

I am often amazed at the awareness displayed on this forum.

what its like for the average guy to trade silver futures:

Oh, so you mean lots of fun with very little risk?

[Shazbot57]

Shaz, I just saw this lil tidbit....its unremarkable except for one line:

"People have no place else to put their money, and the stock market is getting more than its share. It's very likely that something has to give here. " Sam Zell

"People have no place else to put their money

this article, which highlights high net worth ..........peepul, whining and moaning...maybe scared (good) crying about this dysfunctional global economy

here's the URL
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-1 ... deja-vu-gl

also, you'll read about these guys, say allocating 10% of their "portfolio" in metals...what if these men suddenly get VERY frightened, and lose their trust in any paper instrument?....and decide to ramp up to 60-75%?

you could be talking anywhere from 50 to $150 billion slashing its way into the domestic PM PYHSICAL market.

I still maintain.....silver trades up to 150-300, all over the place....then another spike to $750-1000, with Au at 15,000.

crazy?

I had the same response in 98-99, when I said and trade, Crude Oil, first stop $70, then 120. everybody said I was nutz and probably sniffing paint solvents.....

a-yup.
"

Neil. Couldn't agree more. Savers have few options for returns on their money, so the insane equities market has been the recipient. Crazy stoopid! Being in Real Estate, I've been a follower of Sam Zell for decades. I forget where I saw it (probably a movie), but years ago I decided I wouldn't participate in things where everyone else made or "re-made" the rules whenever they wanted. I'm out of the "paper" (equities/bonds) markets. Did I catch the absolute top - no, but I sleep well. All things physical/tangible for me...

I don't know what the trigger will be. I'm not smart enough to figure that one out. Frankly, I think we're brewing a perfect storm, where anything could trigger it, and all the rest will just "pile-drive" us into the ground. Alinsky philosophy at work. My inclination (at this moment) is US losing it's standing as World Reserve Currency. Lots of dollars flooding back into the US. You might want to check out these two links in order. Please excuse the biz solicitation at the end (I am not affiliated with them), but everyone wants to make a living. Still, good info...

http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/ano ... ion-16618/

http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/et- ... nce-16482/

As always thanks for the great info!

[neilgin1]

Neil. Couldn't agree more. Savers have few options for returns on their money, so the insane equities market has been the recipient. Crazy stoopid! Being in Real Estate, I've been a follower of Sam Zell for decades. I forget where I saw it (probably a movie), but years ago I decided I wouldn't participate in things where everyone else made or "re-made" the rules whenever they wanted. I'm out of the "paper" (equities/bonds) markets. Did I catch the absolute top - no, but I sleep well. All things physical/tangible for me...

I don't know what the trigger will be. I'm not smart enough to figure that one out. Frankly, I think we're brewing a perfect storm, where anything could trigger it, and all the rest will just "pile-drive" us into the ground. Alinsky philosophy at work. My inclination (at this moment) is US losing it's standing as World Reserve Currency. Lots of dollars flooding back into the US. You might want to check out these two links in order. Please excuse the biz solicitation at the end (I am not affiliated with them), but everyone wants to make a living. Still, good info...

http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/ano ... ion-16618/

http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/et- ... nce-16482/

As always thanks for the great info!

Shaz, nice post, nice dialogue....thank you bru. its good to know one is not alone, even though we are in different areas of operation, May God put His Hand of Protection, over you and yours, Before I start quoting parts of your post, I just woke up at 0100 AM, which is 0700 AM London time. I love waking up in the dead of the night, because you're fresh, and can really READ, watch markets in the east....I just checked May silver and at 0200,its trading at 15.96 on the board, and the open interest is now at 114,714. Usually higher price, higher open interest means higher market.....but these aren't usual days, which we all know.

Seems to me, that the manipulative smackdowns by the evil ones are getting harder to pull off. Though they could still put a hurt on board silver, it would be JUST to sneak out of their shorts. That's what it seems to me......obviously we still have not broken out to the upside, the battle is still being waged, but (now) May silver trading at 15.97, almost 43 cents higher isn't bad, its slowly trending in the right direction, but a cold wind can blow at any second.

in the spirit of your post,something rather strange happened in the USD futures trading yesterday. We has a flash crash.....huge. I link you first to the ZH article:
"Dollar Flash Crashes: Currency Market Pulverized As Dollar Implodes After Close"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-1 ... fter-close

I find their charts a bit busy, so here's the chart I look at , its a half hourly
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/intraday/DXM15

its the half hourly, and in two hours, starting at 1604 (EST) we traded from 99.75 to below 95.00 in two hours. That is a HUGE move, which begs the question , what the fig?.....did some bank prop trader get phat finger?....or is it something more?....a presage to the future? like you wrote,
"I don't know what the trigger will be. I'm not smart enough to figure that one out.

neither am I. We KNOW these are not "normal" times, but as the end game?.........I don't know, or the WHY?......dunno.

but that flash crash in the USD sure was spooky.

you wrote: "Being in Real Estate, I've been a follower of Sam Zell for decades. I forget where I saw it (probably a movie), but years ago I decided I wouldn't participate in things where everyone else made or "re-made" the rules whenever they wanted. I'm out of the "paper" (equities/bonds) markets."

I crossed that river 13 years ago....not trusting a jimmy rigged market, imo, when a govt can jimmy rig a market, that outright socialism, or communism....its not true mercantilism, or capitalism.

You're in real estate, huh?...oh boy, you must have some sleepless nights, coz imho, we're at the precipice. the only indicator I use are Lumber futures....I watched it hang at $400 the thousand for while, then a dip to the $350 area, and thought if we crack the $300 level, that's when the warning sign goes off, May closed at 278,80, so.........

I know hammer and nail guys, that travel everyday 3 hours roundtrip to build 30 to 50 units rentals in once former corn fields surrounding our state capitol....the money behind this all is "hot money", because they have been building and building, in three years, they pay off the building and get into the profit zone.....so TOO many high 7 digit net worth guys have just been PILING into this market....and the units were renting. They rent to folks who lost their homes in the last bubble, but now, the rentals are the bubble, coz they ARE overbuilding....and the units they build, are not the kind of buildings that say last past 30 years, plus good ag land is taken out, which is bad.

you wrote:
"Frankly, I think we're brewing a perfect storm, where anything could trigger it, and all the rest will just "pile-drive" us into the ground. Alinsky philosophy at work. My inclination (at this moment) is US losing it's standing as World Reserve Currency. "

couldn't agree more.......perfect storm, indeed....but I believe it all centers on "ERoEI" "Energy returned on energy invested"
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_ret ... y_invested )

I personally believe we're in the "rocky plateau" phase of peak oil, which is why both the global economy and the world itself is so ablaze.....and why our leadership doesn't want the Middle East stable. But with that, we are making more enemies than friends, but I have no input, which is why (as I've said many times) I bailed and live in a county surrounded in 100 mile circle with other counties, that have populations less than 20,000 folks and no interstates cutting thru....because when we are "pile drived", our communities here, and the polity, sheriffs department, courts, hospitals, etc.....are very well ordered, well cared for.....everybody has multiple firearms, (hunting season) yet there's no crazy talk of revolt, militias...its the kind of place, where if you break down on the county highways, the first car/truck that's passes by will stop and "Bud, you need some help?"

I heard of Alinsky, but I had to wiki him...interesting.....but he was a city dweller,....and these days?, its best to lay low.

When you know a BIG storm is coming, you head down into the tornado shelter. The problem is a whole mess of our countrymen have fallen asleep, or been opiated by mass media,or the fact that a loaf of bread can be had for $1.59, and sliced ham (on special) can be had for 2.59, internet porn is free, mogas at 87 octane is 2.39.....so everythings "okay".....ohhhhhh boy, the awakening will be hellish for a whole lot of people.

my area is very much like the Shire of Lord of the Rings, my son and I have this thing, i'm Bilbo, he's Frodo...and in the books, if you ever read, Bilbo was quite the stacker, a quiet stacker, so as I enjoy to do, which is end on an up note, i'll end with two clips from the "Fellowship of the Ring".....I hope it lifts your spirit, it did mine, be blessed, one and all, n. (keep stacking! )

[Shazbot57]

Neil. Couldn't agree more. Savers have few options for returns on their money, so the insane equities market has been the recipient. Crazy stoopid! Being in Real Estate, I've been a follower of Sam Zell for decades. I forget where I saw it (probably a movie), but years ago I decided I wouldn't participate in things where everyone else made or "re-made" the rules whenever they wanted. I'm out of the "paper" (equities/bonds) markets. Did I catch the absolute top - no, but I sleep well. All things physical/tangible for me...

I don't know what the trigger will be. I'm not smart enough to figure that one out. Frankly, I think we're brewing a perfect storm, where anything could trigger it, and all the rest will just "pile-drive" us into the ground. Alinsky philosophy at work. My inclination (at this moment) is US losing it's standing as World Reserve Currency. Lots of dollars flooding back into the US. You might want to check out these two links in order. Please excuse the biz solicitation at the end (I am not affiliated with them), but everyone wants to make a living. Still, good info...

http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/ano ... ion-16618/

http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/et- ... nce-16482/

As always thanks for the great info!

Shaz, nice post, nice dialogue....thank you bru. its good to know one is not alone, even though we are in different areas of operation, May God put His Hand of Protection, over you and yours,

Seems to me, that the manipulative smackdowns by the evil ones are getting harder to pull off. Though they could still put a hurt on board silver, it would be JUST to sneak out of their shorts. That's what it seems to me......obviously we still have not broken out to the upside, the battle is still being waged, but (now) May silver trading at 15.97, almost 43 cents higher isn't bad, its slowly trending in the right direction, but a cold wind can blow at any second.

in the spirit of your post,something rather strange happened in the USD futures trading yesterday. We has a flash crash.....huge. I link you first to the ZH article:
"Dollar Flash Crashes: Currency Market Pulverized As Dollar Implodes After Close"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-1 ... fter-close

I find their charts a bit busy, so here's the chart I look at , its a half hourly
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/intraday/DXM15

its the half hourly, and in two hours, starting at 1604 (EST) we traded from 99.75 to below 95.00 in two hours. That is a HUGE move, which begs the question , what the fig?.....did some bank prop trader get phat finger?....or is it something more?....a presage to the future? like you wrote,
"I don't know what the trigger will be. I'm not smart enough to figure that one out.

neither am I. We KNOW these are not "normal" times, but as the end game?.........I don't know, or the WHY?......dunno.

but that flash crash in the USD sure was spooky.

you wrote: "Being in Real Estate, I've been a follower of Sam Zell for decades. I forget where I saw it (probably a movie), but years ago I decided I wouldn't participate in things where everyone else made or "re-made" the rules whenever they wanted. I'm out of the "paper" (equities/bonds) markets."

I crossed that river 13 years ago....not trusting a jimmy rigged market, imo, when a govt can jimmy rig a market, that outright socialism, or communism....its not true mercantilism, or capitalism.

You're in real estate, huh?...oh boy, you must have some sleepless nights, coz imho, we're at the precipice. the only indicator I use are Lumber futures....I watched it hang at $400 the thousand for while, then a dip to the $350 area, and thought if we crack the $300 level, that's when the warning sign goes off, May closed at 278,80, so.........

I know hammer and nail guys, that travel everyday 3 hours roundtrip to build 30 to 50 units rentals in once former corn fields surrounding our state capitol....the money behind this all is "hot money", because they have been building and building, in three years, they pay off the building and get into the profit zone.....so TOO many high 7 digit net worth guys have just been PILING into this market....and the units were renting. They rent to folks who lost their homes in the last bubble, but now, the rentals are the bubble, coz they ARE overbuilding....and the units they build, are not the kind of buildings that say last past 30 years, plus good ag land is taken out, which is bad.

you wrote:
"Frankly, I think we're brewing a perfect storm, where anything could trigger it, and all the rest will just "pile-drive" us into the ground. Alinsky philosophy at work. My inclination (at this moment) is US losing it's standing as World Reserve Currency. "

couldn't agree more.......perfect storm, indeed....but I believe it all centers on "ERoEI" "Energy returned on energy invested"
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_ret ... y_invested )

I personally believe we're in the "rocky plateau" phase of peak oil, which is why both the global economy and the world itself is so ablaze.....and why our leadership doesn't want the Middle East stable. But with that, we are making more enemies than friends, but I have no input, which is why (as I've said many times) I bailed and live in a county surrounded in 100 mile circle with other counties, that have populations less than 20,000 folks and no interstates cutting thru....because when we are "pile drived", our communities here, and the polity, sheriffs department, courts, hospitals, etc.....are very well ordered, well cared for.....everybody has multiple firearms, (hunting season) yet there's no crazy talk of revolt, militias...its the kind of place, where if you break down on the county highways, the first car/truck that's passes by will stop and "Bud, you need some help?"

I heard of Alinsky, but I had to wiki him...interesting.....but he was a city dweller,....and these days?, its best to lay low.

When you know a BIG storm is coming, you head down into the tornado shelter. The problem is a whole mess of our countrymen have fallen asleep, or been opiated by mass media,or the fact that a loaf of bread can be had for $1.59, and sliced ham (on special) can be had for 2.59, internet porn is free, mogas at 87 octane is 2.39.....so everythings "okay".....ohhhhhh boy, the awakening will be hellish for a whole lot of people.

Neil,
Thanks for the kind words. If people knew how screwed up the Real Estate and banking environment really is, they'd all run screaming into a brick wall. And it's not just here. China has been building "ghost" cities for a decade to keep their people working, backed by worthless paper. Google it sometime. (P.S. I use http://www.duckduckgo.com vs Google because I'm told duckduck doesn't track web visits like Gurgle). Millenials can't buy houses. Too much student debt & only 50% of grads get jobs. Pajama boy is none too happy these days living in Mom & Dad's basement! Might explain Barry's desire to forgive private student loans thru bankruptcy. Funny how they don't mention gooberment student loans, YET.

I have a friend who's a realtor in Idyho and 90% of his substantially large R.E. biz comes from people looking for "preparedness" properties, but the really shocking fact, is that 90-95% of that 90% are gov't employees! All manners of gooberment folks, from city, county, state, & federal agencies. The entire alphabet soup and most highly educated. And all scared and sharing stories that would curl your hair. He's had everything from local LEO's to Princeton educated Federal Gooberment Economists. I'd like to be in Idyho/Montana or Wyoming, but for now I'll have to be content with my "little" hidy-hole in the Ozarks.

Yeah, lots of folks don't know who Alinsky was. Alinsky wrote "Rules for Radicals" (you can find the 12 rules on Wiki) and was a Chicago Community Organizer. He is of a similar philosophy as Cloward & Piven and the Overwhelm the System far-left Progressive movement. Sound familiar? (B.O.) In the 2008 campaign Hillary said she was a modern day Progressive. She cited Alinsky early in her law career. Some believe that is why her transcripts and thesis are sealed by her alma matter.

Anyway, always good to read your posts.
Take care & God Bless!

[neilgin1]

Neil,
Thanks for the kind words. If people knew how screwed up the Real Estate and banking environment really is, they'd all run screaming into a brick wall. And it's not just here. China has been building "ghost" cities for a decade to keep their people working, backed by worthless paper. Google it sometime. (P.S. I use http://www.duckduckgo.com vs Google because I'm told duckduck doesn't track web visits like Gurgle). Millenials can't buy houses. Too much student debt & only 50% of grads get jobs. Pajama boy is none too happy these days living in Mom & Dad's basement! Might explain Barry's desire to forgive private student loans thru bankruptcy. Funny how they don't mention gooberment student loans, YET.

I have a friend who's a realtor in Idyho and 90% of his substantially large R.E. biz comes from people looking for "preparedness" properties, but the really shocking fact, is that 90-95% of that 90% are gov't employees! All manners of gooberment folks, from city, county, state, & federal agencies. The entire alphabet soup and most highly educated. And all scared and sharing stories that would curl your hair. He's had everything from local LEO's to Princeton educated Federal Gooberment Economists. I'd like to be in Idyho/Montana or Wyoming, but for now I'll have to be content with my "little" hidy-hole in the Ozarks.

Yeah, lots of folks don't know who Alinsky was. Alinsky wrote "Rules for Radicals" (you can find the 12 rules on Wiki) and was a Chicago Community Organizer. He is of a similar philosophy as Cloward & Piven and the Overwhelm the System far-left Progressive movement. Sound familiar? (B.O.) In the 2008 campaign Hillary said she was a modern day Progressive. She cited Alinsky early in her law career. Some believe that is why her transcripts and thesis are sealed by her alma matter.

Anyway, always good to read your posts.
Take care & God Bless!

Shaz,
you know its the small bits of info that are the most valuable?...and you gave me some pearls. but first...yeh, I know how effed up the RE biz and loan biz is, I know most of the RE guys and gals around here, and they are hurting. People have NO problem getting subprime car and truck loans..or student loans....but a house?....or a house and acrerage?....forget it....and China?.....what a Charlie foxtrot that is...yeh I seen those cities....I've had nightmares that look like that.

anyway, here's the valuable info you gave me:
"I have a friend who's a realtor in Idyho and 90% of his substantially large R.E. biz comes from people looking for "preparedness" properties, but the really shocking fact, is that 90-95% of that 90% are gov't employees! All manners of gooberment folks, from city, county, state, & federal agencies. The entire alphabet soup and most highly educated. And all scared and sharing stories that would curl your hair. He's had everything from local LEO's to Princeton educated Federal Gooberment Economists. "

oh boy....whoooo-eeee, 11th hour preppers FROM THE GVT?....the very same people, most locals in Idyho LOATHE....how you think that's going to work out?....you KNOW, that to be part of a real rural community, you got to fit in, live there some years, get to know people, don't be high flautin......."Princeton educamakated econmisks" CANT HELP looking down their noses, and then Idyho boys are mighty suspicious, cause the gvt has pegged them as rebels for decades! "Ruby?".......the lake they took away from Butler?....and the Idyho boys can be some mean MF's.....oh that's gonna be bad....unless they be cool, or some of the locals show kindness.

my area, which is the best kept secret prep area....I been coming up here for over 30 years, got lots of good buddies, coz you need a pack, lone wolf preppers will die. sure I thought of Idyho/Mont/Wyo, but there were a couple things that had me say no...first, too much light and heat on the area, and to the west, you got a huge tgt, Whidbey sub base, to the west, missile fields to the east, and finally, I don't know anybody, ..........you're in Ozarks, well i'm 1100 miles due north...sure the winters are harsh, but I love 'em, kills all the bugs and snakes AND keeps the population density DOWN......coz in normal times, if you cant take or be prepped for some purty hairy winters?.....how you gonna make it, when the SHTF?....plus you ever hear of "Minnesota Nice"?....well, its real and I like it........I like to laugh,and i'm good at making people laugh....goes a long way, plus laughter is to be VALUED in hard times.

one time, survivalblog Jimmy Rawles mentioned my area just ONCE, about 8 or 9 years ago, so I rote an email, saying that's just an area full of hippy commies and one worlders...he never mentioned it again...YeeeeeHawwww, be blessed, n

a typical conversation

[Shazbot57]

Neil,
Thanks for the kind words. If people knew how screwed up the Real Estate and banking environment really is, they'd all run screaming into a brick wall. And it's not just here. China has been building "ghost" cities for a decade to keep their people working, backed by worthless paper. Google it sometime. (P.S. I use http://www.duckduckgo.com vs Google because I'm told duckduck doesn't track web visits like Gurgle). Millenials can't buy houses. Too much student debt & only 50% of grads get jobs. Pajama boy is none too happy these days living in Mom & Dad's basement! Might explain Barry's desire to forgive private student loans thru bankruptcy. Funny how they don't mention gooberment student loans, YET.

I have a friend who's a realtor in Idyho and 90% of his substantially large R.E. biz comes from people looking for "preparedness" properties, but the really shocking fact, is that 90-95% of that 90% are gov't employees! All manners of gooberment folks, from city, county, state, & federal agencies. The entire alphabet soup and most highly educated. And all scared and sharing stories that would curl your hair. He's had everything from local LEO's to Princeton educated Federal Gooberment Economists. I'd like to be in Idyho/Montana or Wyoming, but for now I'll have to be content with my "little" hidy-hole in the Ozarks.

Yeah, lots of folks don't know who Alinsky was. Alinsky wrote "Rules for Radicals" (you can find the 12 rules on Wiki) and was a Chicago Community Organizer. He is of a similar philosophy as Cloward & Piven and the Overwhelm the System far-left Progressive movement. Sound familiar? (B.O.) In the 2008 campaign Hillary said she was a modern day Progressive. She cited Alinsky early in her law career. Some believe that is why her transcripts and thesis are sealed by her alma matter.

Anyway, always good to read your posts.
Take care & God Bless!

Shaz,
...
oh boy....whoooo-eeee, 11th hour preppers FROM THE GVT?....the very same people, most locals in Idyho LOATHE....how you think that's going to work out?....you KNOW, that to be part of a real rural community, you got to fit in, live there some years, get to know people, don't be high flautin......."Princeton educamakated econmisks" CANT HELP looking down their noses, and then Idyho boys are mighty suspicious, cause the gvt has pegged them as rebels for decades! "Ruby?".......the lake they took away from Butler?....and the Idyho boys can be some mean MF's.....oh that's gonna be bad....unless they be cool, or some of the locals show kindness.

my area, which is the best kept secret prep area....I been coming up here for over 30 years, got lots of good buddies, coz you need a pack, lone wolf preppers will die. sure I thought of Idyho/Mont/Wyo, but there were a couple things that had me say no...first, too much light and heat on the area, and to the west, you got a huge tgt, Whidbey sub base, to the west, missile fields to the east, and finally, I don't know anybody, ..........you're in Ozarks, well i'm 1100 miles due north...sure the winters are harsh, but I love 'em, kills all the bugs and snakes AND keeps the population density DOWN......coz in normal times, if you cant take or be prepped for some purty hairy winters?.....how you gonna make it, when the SHTF?....plus you ever hear of "Minnesota Nice"?....well, its real and I like it........I like to laugh,and i'm good at making people laugh....goes a long way, plus laughter is to be VALUED in hard times.

one time, survivalblog Jimmy Rawles mentioned my area just ONCE, about 8 or 9 years ago, so I rote an email, saying that's just an area full of hippy commies and one worlders...he never mentioned it again...YeeeeeHawwww, be blessed, n

a typical conversation

Neil,
Thanks man! I needed a good belly laugh this morning! But it almost made the coffee squirt out my nose! I considered Minnesota because I like winter, but the wife is a wuss, so we're here in the Ozark "mountains" . I feel like I can always put on a few more layers of clothes when it's cold, but when it's 98 degrees and you can chew the humidity, I can never take off enough clothes (not that anyone wants to see that). Wifey's grandparents were from Biwabik and her uncle lives on Lake Minnetonka. Seriously nice people, "don'cha know". But the wifey says they only have two seasons, Winter and road repair. And the skeeters are the state bird! So I guess I'm stuck with ticks, chiggers, water moccasins, copperheads and rattle snakes (because those are waaaay better ). But the upside is the Gooberment men are skeered to venture too far down into the hollers. Ozark'ians are seriously hard core, but nice when they finally accept you. Very distrusting of outsiders.

The whole redoubt is a totally different thang. Throw in the new "agreement" allowing Canadian Mounties to exercise within 200 miles of the border, weather east of the Mountains, silos to the east of the Mountains, no jobs there, not to mention a very long walk in SHT F sicheeayshun. I actually emailed with JWR about the Ozarks many years ago (right before he told me in future conversations he'd be available for consultation- inferring at a price). He didn't think much of the Ozarks. He cited some reasons, all valid ( and already taken into consideration & avoided when we picked our place). I was glad he discounted this area. Keep the libs & wannabee's out. Plus don't get me wrong, we love the website and have bought several of his books. Just not able to hire my own personal security consultant, or move to the "prime" area.
Thanks again for starting my day off with a good chuckle! Be well...

[rsk1963]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/19/us-gold-fix-idUSKBN0MF03020150319

Any thoughts on the new "gold/silver regime?"

I think it slightly odd that all of a sudden gold and silver have started seriously moving north 3-17-2015 with the new fraudsters in control starting today 3-20-15.

[neilgin1]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/19/us-gold-fix-idUSKBN0MF03020150319

Any thoughts on the new "gold/silver regime?"

I think it slightly odd that all of a sudden gold and silver have started seriously moving north 3-17-2015 with the new fraudsters in control starting today 3-20-15.

RSK, thank you for the info........my BP shot up, and when I looked at those haircuts masquerading as men in the first picture, I cant say on a public forum, what I REALLY feel, except that it reminded me that I need my bud to build some stocks...like in the old days, and this adage came to mind while reading the text...."putting the fox in charge of the henhouse".

sadly...someday, when most Americans bellies are empty, then they'll wake up, and quit watching "American Idol", and the RAIN WILL FALL.

but in the meantime, you just got to laugh at all the insanity and WRONGNESS of it all.

be well, n

[Shazbot57]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/19/us-gold-fix-idUSKBN0MF03020150319

Any thoughts on the new "gold/silver regime?"

I think it slightly odd that all of a sudden gold and silver have started seriously moving north 3-17-2015 with the new fraudsters in control starting today 3-20-15.

RSK, thank you for the info........my BP shot up, and when I looked at those haircuts masquerading as men in the first picture, I cant say on a public forum, what I REALLY feel, except that it reminded me that I need my bud to build some stocks...like in the old days, and this adage came to mind while reading the text...."putting the fox in charge of the henhouse".

sadly...someday, when most Americans bellies are empty, then they'll wake up, and quit watching "American Idol", and the RAIN WILL FALL.

but in the meantime, you just got to laugh at all the insanity and WRONGNESS of it all.

be well, n

Yeah, the metals markets are off to the races. Guess everything's fixed and all is right with the world! Full employment, no debt, great trade balances, Peace in our Times, manufacturing at 100% capacity, housing robust. How could it be any better. Gotta go, gotta facebook my peeps, & Dancing with the Stars is coming on soon...