Silver - $27 going to Zero! Call your boss..beg for job back

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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby Oakair » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:27 pm

Ive never been this lucky with futures haha. This is the most incredible feeling. I wish markets were open so I could sell enough to cover my costs and just let the profit keep on riding with no fear.

Im so happy young me decided to collect coins haha. Sparked a lifetime interest in SILVER.
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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby bankmining » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:53 pm

There's the slam down :evil:
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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby Rastatodd » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:52 pm

Let's see if this slam down has any legs. My opinion is no. Still on the sidelines with cash in the bank. Taking a wait and see stances. ;)
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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby Oakair » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:58 pm

Up 125% on my position at close today. Covered my costs a few days ago and am riding pure profit at this point. Come on rebound haha

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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby Cu Penny Hoarder » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:58 am

Oakair wrote:Up 125% on my position at close today. Covered my costs a few days ago and am riding pure profit at this point. Come on rebound haha

Options are too rewarding when they work!


How about when they don't work?

It's like a gambler who goes to the casino and only telling people how much they win and not what they've lost.
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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby beauanderos » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:57 pm

Cu Penny Hoarder wrote:
Oakair wrote:Up 125% on my position at close today. Covered my costs a few days ago and am riding pure profit at this point. Come on rebound haha

Options are too rewarding when they work!


How about when they don't work?

It's like a gambler who goes to the casino and only telling people how much they win and not what they've lost.

Hey! I made $2500 on four trades between Thursday and Friday on JNUG and NUGT :D :mrgreen: yeah, but I lost $7000 a few weeks back and I'm not even yet :oops: :sick:
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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby johnbrickner » Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:55 pm

beauanderos wrote:Hey! I made $2500 on four trades between Thursday and Friday on JNUG and NUGT :D :mrgreen: [size=50]


Called it on the 4th: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=38290#p305194
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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby scyther » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:53 am

...And it's under 19. Glad I sold when I did!
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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby johnbrickner » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:17 am

Time to consider some buys.
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Re: Silver is now $20...Somebody call Barrytrot!

Postby creshka46 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:52 am

I'll admit, I went all in on USLV last week at $19.80 and told myself I would forget about it for the next couple months. Easier said than done now that I'm 13% down in less than a week :sick: But I do feel the conviction that we'll see $21-22 before the end of the year. However, I'm questioning whether it's worth the stress :?
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby Rodebaugh » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:57 am

Sell that USLV....feel the hurt and move on.
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby creshka46 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:11 am

Really? You think we're headed lower?


Rodebaugh wrote:Sell that USLV....feel the hurt and move on.
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby Thogey » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:17 am

Rodebaugh wrote:Sell that USLV....feel the hurt and move on.


There is also a tax write-off to help ease the pain. "all in" is tough one
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby Thogey » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:20 am

But I do feel the conviction


Except for the exact words Jesus spoke. This might be another one to avoid.
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby creshka46 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:23 am

well lucky for me, "all in" is in the mid 4 figure range, so losses are less than $1000, but it still hurts. I didn't think about the tax issues. Maybe now is a good time to convert from a traditional to a roth IRA. Pay the taxes now on the lower value....
Pennies: $4200 - (0) indians - (5)steel - (1) George V Canadian
Nickels: $6500 - (62)war - (23)buf - (1)V nic - (4) key date jeff's
Dimes: $5000 - (24)roos - (2)merc - (2)AgCAN
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby creshka46 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:25 am

Thogey wrote:
But I do feel the conviction


Except for the exact words Jesus spoke. This might be another one to avoid.


??? you're point escapes me...
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby Thogey » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:30 am

Just sayin I've been burned on many a deal when I "felt the conviction" a price will move one way or another.

I guess I'm agreeing with Doc. I have felt the pain of sticking with a conviction. The future price of anything is so unknowable.

The Jesus thing was just the exception I thought of.
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby Thogey » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:32 am

In fact I'm going to start another thread about price surprises.
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby creshka46 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:33 am

Aha, I get it.... Thanks for your 2 cents. I suppose some lessons are more painful than others
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby Thogey » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:41 am

I once bought into a single odds crap game for $60, ran it up to over $3000. Then lost it all. :oops: That sucked, :evil:

I will never do that again. :angel:

That is run $60 to $3000 in a single odds game with a $50 limit. :shock: You craps players know how hard that would be. :lol:

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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby Rodebaugh » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:46 am

USLV moves against you ..... you get out.
USLV moves for you........... you get out.
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby creshka46 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:52 am

Rodebaugh wrote:USLV moves against you ..... you get out.
USLV moves for you........... you get out.


I'm getting the impression that maybe I jumped in over my head :oops:
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby AlexTG » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:01 pm

My unprofessional opinion

Holding any leveraged ETF long term is just not a good stand.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/financial-advisors/082515/why-leveraged-etfs-are-not-longterm-bet.asp

"If you’re a beginning investor, don’t go anywhere near leveraged ETFs. This might be difficult because of the high potential returns, but if you’re inexperienced, then you’re much less likely to know what to look for when researching. The end results will almost always be unexpected and devastating losses. Part of the reason for this will be holding on to a leveraged ETF for too long, always waiting and hoping for things to turn around. All the while, you’re capital is slowly but surely being chewed away.
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As for USLV and silver in general, I think we are in a trading band between 18.50 and 20.50. Strong breakout above or below these markers resets the band.

We just hit above a 2 year high over the last 30 days and some pull back is expected. If the Fed increases the Fed funds rate expect more pain as gold and silver dive and dollar goes up. Other wise we will continue a slow trend up over the long term until the next economic event or War. Don't forget that silver is up +/- 40% YTD so we have truly seen massive gains this year but its not really a major headline in MSM financial news.

Rodebaugh is right , when USLV (or any leveraged ETF) moves you get out. Its just too fast a current to fool around with.

Best thing to do if you really want to trade is set loss and gain limits. Take the emotion out of it. Figure at what % you have to get out or what % you will take money off the table. The more robotic you are about it the more likely you are to do well.
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby IdahoCopper » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:54 am

Still going down, while the GSR going up. $18.54 and 71.5.
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Re: Silver is sub $19 again.

Postby pennypicker » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:51 am

With each passing day Brexit is moving to the rear view mirror while Fed hikes are on the horizon. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see $16 silver again.
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