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gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservative?

Postby kidman232 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:26 pm

would you say that most people who are stacking precious metals tend to be conservative or religious people or both?


i have noticed a lot of religious scripture on the set in peoples post or signatures, most magazine ads for gold/silver seem to be in outdoor/hunting magazines etc. Just something I was curious about and found interesting
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby 68Camaro » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:29 pm

kidman232 wrote:would you say that most people who are stacking precious metals tend to be conservative or religious people or both?


i have noticed a lot of religious scripture on the set in peoples post or signatures, most magazine ads for gold/silver seem to be in outdoor/hunting magazines etc. Just something I was curious about and found interesting


Of course. Most liberals/progressives believe in the inherent goodness of mankind, and truly believe we are getting better with each generation. Conservatives and/or people who have a God, know better (generally).
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby kidman232 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:34 pm

68Camaro wrote:
kidman232 wrote:would you say that most people who are stacking precious metals tend to be conservative or religious people or both?


i have noticed a lot of religious scripture on the set in peoples post or signatures, most magazine ads for gold/silver seem to be in outdoor/hunting magazines etc. Just something I was curious about and found interesting


Of course. Most liberals/progressives believe in the inherent goodness of mankind, and truly believe we are getting better with each generation. Conservatives and/or people who have a God, know better (generally).



interesting. I think I am pretty liberal on most things and I do not view myself as a very religious person, but I do see value/need in gold/silver
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Roadrunner » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:36 pm

That's a pretty typical stereotype. PM collector/hoarder/survivalist/religious/conservative/gun-owner all seem to go hand in hand.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Oakair » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:37 pm

Im liberal and definitely not religious...but I value silver and gold...
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby 68Camaro » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:39 pm

Oakair wrote:Im liberal and definitely not religious...but I value silver and gold...


I'll still talk to you... ;)
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby HD-Daddy » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:43 pm

Corsair, there an old saying something like " when your young and have nothing your a Liberal as you get older and work hard for what you have you become conservative." Just Saying...
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby HD-Daddy » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:44 pm

And I will Still talk to you also!!!
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Oakair » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:45 pm

68Camaro wrote:
Oakair wrote:Im liberal and definitely not religious...but I value silver and gold...


I'll still talk to you... ;)


:lol:

Much as silver is silver and gold gold, A person is a person...ideologies and mentalities don't change the fundamental underlying truth: We are all in this together (we are thrown without asking into a world we did not choose)
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:48 pm

HD-Daddy wrote:Corsair, there an old saying something like " when your young and have nothing your a Liberal as you get older and work hard for what you have you become conservative." Just Saying...


Whoa, how did I get involved in this conversation? Am I just assumed to be the young liberal on the forum? :lol:
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Oakair » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:50 pm

Corsair wrote:
HD-Daddy wrote:Corsair, there an old saying something like " when your young and have nothing your a Liberal as you get older and work hard for what you have you become conservative." Just Saying...


Whoa, how did I get involved in this conversation? Am I just assumed to be the young liberal on the forum? :lol:


Think he mistook me for you :lol:

All the better, I need someone on my side :( lol
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby neilgin1 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:50 pm

i'm a Jeffersonian Democrat and find the current labels of "liberal/conservative", "left/right" or Democrat/Repubican of little utility, which only add a poisoningly divisive taint to our national dialogue. and i follow Jesus, so thankfully i can say i'm not "religious", cast more in the mold of the prostitutes and tax collector that would sup with Him, and not these white washed tomb neo pharisees you see running around today, making a right hellish spectacle of themselves on TV and in the marketplace of national life.

and no, i dont own any silver, nor possess firearms.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Oakair » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:54 pm

neilgin1 wrote:i'm a Jeffersonian Democrat and find the current labels of "liberal/conservative", "left/right" or Democrat/Repubican of little utility, which only add a poisoningly divisive taint to our national dialogue.


This.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby WizardTN » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:56 pm

I am an agnostic and I have always taken "the path less traveled by" and "It has made all the difference."
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Mossy » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:04 pm

Think about what many (NOT all) "liberals" and "leftists" want: absolute power to the government? That's neither liberal nor left, but authoritarian and right wing. Extreme right wing. People who are truly liberals and truly leftists are around, but they call themselves nearly anything, including liberal. Some true, old fashioned liberals are now called "neo-cons", as an insult. It's a headache.

"Conservative" is not the opposite of Liberal, by any meaning of the word. It's 90 degrees to liberal and "liberal".

But, yes, by the standards of the yammering class that has stolen the name "liberal", most investors are "conservative", by today's definition. We oppose the yammering class and their push for a tyranical government.

I think that many religious people are in opposition to those seeking to make government the religion of the masses, so we see the religious scriptures. And most religious people are true liberals instead of the fakes we see in the news. Consider: Who is more likely to help someone? A church goer? or a yuppie?
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/Conservativ

Postby Thogey » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:11 pm

Oakair wrote:
68Camaro wrote:
Oakair wrote:Im liberal and definitely not religious...but I value silver and gold...


I'll still talk to you... ;)


:lol:

Much as silver is silver and gold gold, A person is a person...ideologies and mentalities don't change the fundamental underlying truth: We are all in this together (we are thrown without asking into a world we did not choose)


I'm a Christian, but not religious. They are two different things. I just understand how the last 5000 years of human history has developed and find it harder to discount biblical structure. Conservatives and most Christian sects value responsibility and self-reliance (with God's help).

This is why ,I believe the hunting, firearm and PM interest.

Unlike most Christians, I could care less if someone chooses to believe what I do or not. Everyone makes their choice. I just want them to have all the information and not beat us down for our reliance on God and belief that following the Son is the way to live.

God granted us freedom, to take care of ourselves, free will. Precious metals is a way to exercise that, and not be trapped or enslaved by the. 'money trade'. It's a more solid way to bank the value of your time.

Time is really all we have here in this life. How will you spend your time? Eternity is separate from time.

That's the way I see it and it makes me feel good.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby HD-Daddy » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:27 pm

Here here!
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Treetop » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:44 pm

I do think more hard money advocates lean to the right. Along with that the right leans a bit towards "religious"......

i know folks from nearly every cloth under the sun. I often find myself trying to get my right leaning friends to grow food, and my left leaning friends to get some silver and gold, and maybe a .22.

there were some very interesting posts in this thread to say the least. One thing Id like to point out though.... "liberals" arent really as authoritarian as many think. though most by todays definition of the word do believe government can solve most social issues. there are authoritarians of equal proportions on BOTH sides of the aisle imo.....

i actually believe in the inherent good of mankind myself. Most folks that is. Problem is the evil ones can wear sheeps clothing and most are unable to spot them. So their influence usually pervades. Most people are essentially apolitical and just looking to get by. its much easier for the wolf to rise to the top when as I said most dont even care, and the wolf will say what you want to hear. Or simply seize power.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby 68Camaro » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:21 pm

Golng a bit off-topic, but we need labels. It's very difficult to have a conversation without them. Sometimes they need to be clarified, or bounded. And they can be abused or misused. But otherwise without them we would spend our entire conversation defining terms, and get very little other said. I'm a "conservative" in that I believe that prior well-thought-out principals should not be re-defined or re-interpreted without extreme care, and even then only sparingly. In that respect, I lean "right". I'm a "Christian" in that I try to follow Christ. I'm neither "Republican" or "Libertarian", though I identify with certain core principals of each, but not all of either.

Being "religious" got a bad rap back in Jesus' day. I understand what those mean, that don't want to identify with that. I don't want to be religious in that sense either.

I believe there is an eternity, and that it can only be gotten there by one way. I care where people spend eternity. But I'm not going to get in their face about it, when they (especially in the US) have had plenty of opportunity to be informed and make their own decision. I will make my views known, and continue to discuss them with people that ask. If don't ask, I don't push it.

I'm fine with people being "Progressive" or "Democrat" or "Socialist" or "Agnostic" or "Atheist" or "left of center" in general, as long as they don't impose on my freedoms or rights. (Which, unfortunately, we too often disagree on what is a freedom or right.) If the impose on me, then we start getting on the wrong side of an argument, and I can get testy about it. But that is a topic for an entirely other discussion. One that I too often don't have much time to indulge in.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby cesariojpn » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:25 pm

I'm not religious and i'm a liberal. And I still hoard pennies and PM's.

So, i'm an anomaly i guess...
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Corsair » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:28 pm

I consider myself a moderate conservative. There are things I love about the right and things I absolutely hate about it. I'm not religious, but I believe in God, if that makes sense. And I believe, without a doubt, that metals are the place to be.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby Mossy » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:49 pm

Treetop wrote:... i actually believe in the inherent good of mankind myself. Most folks that is. Problem is the evil ones can wear sheeps clothing and most are unable to spot them. So their influence usually pervades. Most people are essentially apolitical and just looking to get by. its much easier for the wolf to rise to the top when as I said most dont even care, and the wolf will say what you want to hear. Or simply seize power.

I certainly go along with that part.

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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby aristobolus » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:52 pm

68Camaro wrote:
kidman232 wrote:would you say that most people who are stacking precious metals tend to be conservative or religious people or both?


i have noticed a lot of religious scripture on the set in peoples post or signatures, most magazine ads for gold/silver seem to be in outdoor/hunting magazines etc. Just something I was curious about and found interesting


Of course. Most liberals/progressives believe in the inherent goodness of mankind, and truly believe we are getting better with each generation. Conservatives and/or people who have a God, know better (generally).


I am an Eastern Orthodox Priest, and believe that evil is not an essential part of man's essence. God crated him, and said that His creation was "good". But, indeed after the fall sin and death have entered into our world; the old "Social Gospel" liberals at times ignored this. Today many "liberals" are nothing less than narcissists and hedons.

Yest, I believe on this forum we have many who have not yet come to believe in God through Christ who are more responsible libertarians than irresponsible spendthrifts. Their morality put some so called "Christians" to shame. Whether we all realize it, or accept it; I believe what binds us together on this fourm is our God given high calling as Man, to be responsbile stewards of the earth. PM's are of the earth in a way that ethereal electronic money will never touch or handle.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby RR GUY » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:05 pm

You can't get more liberal than me. I'm a classic New York City liberal and yet, I've been colllecting coins and silver since a kid. I think that as a third generation American, I'm very cognizant of the wealth that has been created from my grandparents (born on the lower east side of dirt poor immigrants) and parents and understand the value of preservation of capital.
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Re: gold/silver collecting go w/ being religious/conservativ

Postby schockergd » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:08 pm

Most conservatives don't trust the government, thus the desire for gold & silver ;)

I know a FEW liberals that value gold & silver but they've never admitted to me that they actually posses any. All the guys I know that hold it are generally conservative, and I consider myself libertarian.
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