Imminent Silver Correction

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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Beau » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:42 pm

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JFF you have proven your self, so I will be watching to see if you do that good this time.
you don`t need a dictionary to figure out what you are saying.

there are posters on here that if you look up all the big words they use, well they don`t know what the words mean eithier their self, or the dictionary is completely wrong.

I am like theogey, I don`t know all the big words, and then I find that the posters don`t either.

I have 3 degrees, so I should know what they are saying, but they don`t either.

GOOD JOB JFF but I`am watching you. :lol: IT`S ALL GOOD.



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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Jonflyfish » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:10 pm

Thank you for the kind compliments. The overwhelming majority of positive clearly outweighs the negative in this community of friends.
Keep on keeping on.
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Jonflyfish » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:51 pm

aristobolus wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Perhaps another dip is coming.
Either way, volatility is not going away anytime too soon.

Best,
JFF


Jon, a serious question. Is our economic system possibly ready to collapse? Is a new currency around the corner? A new world order? I ask because you seem to have a unique perspective, and not driven by emotion.


Hi aristobolus.
You raise a good question. I'm not sure what the definition of collapse is through your paradigm, but through mine I do not see an abrupt SHTF EOTWAWKI on the horizon. The reason being is that there isn't anything readily available or necessary to replace the USD. And while it does suffer from an increase in supply syndrome from the chairsatan of the creature from Jekyll Island, this is nothing new. The financial system requires confidence. There is less confidence in the US as before but when honestly challenged at any teller or merchant location, nobody is refusing or even questioning accepting the US currency. The US has been exposed in the turmoil from the extremely overgeared (over-leveraged) CDO and CDS markets during economic expansion via easy capital. The consequences are enormous but not a death knell for the US. Having the most transparent economy has allowed discounting and valuation mechanisms to work through price discovery to the point where intervention has not hindered its progress. This is one reason why many markets are discounted with ease (and pain for many) and yet others (i.e. housing) are slower to unwind. The mess in Europe is real. It is also not very transparent with excessive disinformation and misinformation while the great collusionist experiment (euro currency) finds its fate. China has experienced tremendous growth. And while many are talking about a hard landing, it is due to expansion not life support.

In a nutshell, the fiats are all in a race to the bottom. There may be some that race faster and harder than others but the USD will be the stalwart during the battle of the uglies. The USD is still the overwhelming reserve currency of choice and while some have begun some diversification into a greater basket, that approach has already proven futile and reversing course. The flight to safety is still the USD. This is a greater portion of my earlier reasoning that the strength of the USD could be the Black Swan event when most thought the USD would continue weakening. When Europe accelerates negative instability you will see even more USD strength. Will we see a new currency(s)? To wit- most likely yes as some countries voluntarily or forcibly revert back to the old currencies i.e. Greek Drachmas etc. Because the Euro collusion has been exposed as a failure, the chances of a new world order have to be even more remote.

I know the above views might not be popular in this forum. It is all just IMVHO. Of course I can be 100% wrong just like any other. Always maintain that ALL fiat currencies eventually return to their true intrinsic value. However, I don't think we'll go from where we are today to living like cavemen anytime in the near future.
Having said that, I do believe in holding wealth in real money (everyone here knows what this is) and real durable assets as well as being a prepper and a hoarder. This is due to my personal belief in being fully self sufficient and take the responsibility of providing for my family deadly serious.

All the best!
JFF
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby balz » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:07 pm

JFF: Do you believe more in hyperinflation or in deflation in the future collapse? Why? What should be our play for PMs?
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby aristobolus » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:37 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:
aristobolus wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Perhaps another dip is coming.
Either way, volatility is not going away anytime too soon.

Best,
JFF


Jon, a serious question. Is our economic system possibly ready to collapse? Is a new currency around the corner? A new world order? I ask because you seem to have a unique perspective, and not driven by emotion.


Hi aristobolus.be
You raise a good question. I'm not sure what the definition of collapse is through your paradigm, but through mine I do not see an abrupt SHTF EOTWAWKI on the horizon. The reason being is that there isn't anything readily available or necessary to replace the USD. And while it does suffer from an increase in supply syndrome from the chairsatan of the creature from Jekyll Island, this is nothing new. The financial system requires confidence. There is less confidence in the US as before but when honestly challenged at any teller or merchant location, nobody is refusing or even questioning accepting the US currency. The US has been exposed in the turmoil from the extremely overgeared (over-leveraged) CDO and CDS markets during economic expansion via easy capital. The consequences are enormous but not a death knell for the US. Having the most transparent economy has allowed discounting and valuation mechanisms to work through price discovery to the point where intervention has not hindered its progress. This is one reason why many markets are discounted with ease (and pain for many) and yet others (i.e. housing) are slower to unwind. The mess in Europe is real. It is also not very transparent with excessive disinformation and misinformation while the great collusionist experiment (euro currency) finds its fate. China has experienced tremendous growth. And while many are talking about a hard landing, it is due to expansion not life support.

In a nutshell, the fiats are all in a race to the bottom. There may be some that race faster and harder than others but the USD will be the stalwart during the battle of the uglies. The USD is still the overwhelming reserve currency of choice and while some have begun some diversification into a greater basket, that approach has already proven futile and reversing course. The flight to safety is still the USD. This is a greater portion of my earlier reasoning that the strength of the USD could be the Black Swan event when most thought the USD would continue weakening. When Europe accelerates negative instability you will see even more USD strength. Will we see a new currency(s)? To wit- most likely yes as some countries voluntarily or forcibly revert back to the old currencies i.e. Greek Drachmas etc. Because the Euro collusion has been exposed as a failure, the chances of a new world order have to be even more remote.

I know the above views might not be popular in this forum. It is all just IMVHO. Of course I can be 100% wrong just like any other. Always maintain that ALL fiat currencies eventually return to their true intrinsic value. However, I don't think we'll go from where we are today to living like cavemen anytime in the near future.
Having said that, I do believe in holding wealth in real money (everyone here knows what this is) and real durable assets as well as being a prepper and a hoarder. This is due to my personal belief in being fully self sufficient and take the responsibility of providing for my family deadly serious.

All the best!
JFF


Thanks for the thoughtful response.

God bless,

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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Jonflyfish » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:47 am

The silver market still looks like another selloff is coming.
Be cool about this.
Cheers,
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby SteelCityCopper » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:11 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:
aristobolus wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Perhaps another dip is coming.
Either way, volatility is not going away anytime too soon.

Best,
JFF


Jon, a serious question. Is our economic system possibly ready to collapse? Is a new currency around the corner? A new world order? I ask because you seem to have a unique perspective, and not driven by emotion.


Hi aristobolus.be
You raise a good question. I'm not sure what the definition of collapse is through your paradigm, but through mine I do not see an abrupt SHTF EOTWAWKI on the horizon. The reason being is that there isn't anything readily available or necessary to replace the USD. And while it does suffer from an increase in supply syndrome from the chairsatan of the creature from Jekyll Island, this is nothing new. The financial system requires confidence. There is less confidence in the US as before but when honestly challenged at any teller or merchant location, nobody is refusing or even questioning accepting the US currency. The US has been exposed in the turmoil from the extremely overgeared (over-leveraged) CDO and CDS markets during economic expansion via easy capital. The consequences are enormous but not a death knell for the US. Having the most transparent economy has allowed discounting and valuation mechanisms to work through price discovery to the point where intervention has not hindered its progress. This is one reason why many markets are discounted with ease (and pain for many) and yet others (i.e. housing) are slower to unwind. The mess in Europe is real. It is also not very transparent with excessive disinformation and misinformation while the great collusionist experiment (euro currency) finds its fate. China has experienced tremendous growth. And while many are talking about a hard landing, it is due to expansion not life support.

In a nutshell, the fiats are all in a race to the bottom. There may be some that race faster and harder than others but the USD will be the stalwart during the battle of the uglies. The USD is still the overwhelming reserve currency of choice and while some have begun some diversification into a greater basket, that approach has already proven futile and reversing course. The flight to safety is still the USD. This is a greater portion of my earlier reasoning that the strength of the USD could be the Black Swan event when most thought the USD would continue weakening. When Europe accelerates negative instability you will see even more USD strength. Will we see a new currency(s)? To wit- most likely yes as some countries voluntarily or forcibly revert back to the old currencies i.e. Greek Drachmas etc. Because the Euro collusion has been exposed as a failure, the chances of a new world order have to be even more remote.

I know the above views might not be popular in this forum. It is all just IMVHO. Of course I can be 100% wrong just like any other. Always maintain that ALL fiat currencies eventually return to their true intrinsic value. However, I don't think we'll go from where we are today to living like cavemen anytime in the near future.
Having said that, I do believe in holding wealth in real money (everyone here knows what this is) and real durable assets as well as being a prepper and a hoarder. This is due to my personal belief in being fully self sufficient and take the responsibility of providing for my family deadly serious.

All the best!
JFF

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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Thogey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:38 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:The silver market still looks like another selloff is coming.
Be cool about this.Cheers,
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Jonflyfish » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:59 am

Thogey wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:The silver market still looks like another selloff is coming.
Be cool about this.Cheers,
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Jonflyfish » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:15 am

Perhaps this is an imminent correction commencing.
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby TXBullion » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:56 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:Perhaps this is an imminent correction commencing.


Thanks Jon, I will be dumping all my holdings :lol: JK. But I was hoping this moment would come, wasnt sure how long it would take but I knew the crystal ball would speak :D

Jokingly though, DYODD everyone......
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Treetop » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:01 pm

Im hoping gold drops another 100 bucks or more and silver to 25.... shine on me PM gods!!! lol
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Jonflyfish » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:59 am

Perhap this is near the range top for silver where it meets some perilous resistance and slides into a deeper correction.
Maybe I'll be 100% wrong. Let's see...

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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Cu Penny Hoarder » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:05 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:Perhap this is near the range top for silver where it meets some perilous resistance and slides into a deeper correction.
Maybe I'll be 100% wrong. Let's see...

Cheers!



Let me make sure I understand this correctly because what you wrote seems fairly complicated...

It might go down, but it might go up? :roll:

What a crystal ball prediction! :lol:
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby TXBullion » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:20 pm

Cu Penny Hoarder wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Perhap this is near the range top for silver where it meets some perilous resistance and slides into a deeper correction.
Maybe I'll be 100% wrong. Let's see...

Cheers!



Let me make sure I understand this correctly because what you wrote seems fairly complicated...

It might go down, but it might go up? :roll:

What a crystal ball prediction! :lol:


I think he means the peak area before it slides down. The highest point range before it starts to slide....
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Jonflyfish » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:25 am

Cu Penny Hoarder wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Perhap this is near the range top for silver where it meets some perilous resistance and slides into a deeper correction.
Maybe I'll be 100% wrong. Let's see...

Cheers!



Let me make sure I understand this correctly because what you wrote seems fairly complicated...

It might go down, but it might go up? :roll:

What a crystal ball prediction! :lol:


Yes. To say it might squeeze to the top of the range (I think we are there now) before it goes down. ECB has shot its load
Let the deleveraging begin(resume).
But this is no crystal ball prediction. I'll leave the ball rubbing to you.

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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby TXBullion » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:59 am

Jonflyfish wrote:
Cu Penny Hoarder wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Perhap this is near the range top for silver where it meets some perilous resistance and slides into a deeper correction.
Maybe I'll be 100% wrong. Let's see...

Cheers!



Let me make sure I understand this correctly because what you wrote seems fairly complicated...

It might go down, but it might go up? :roll:

What a crystal ball prediction! :lol:


Yes. To say it might squeeze to the top of the range (I think we are there now) before it goes down. ECB has shot its load
Let the deleveraging begin(resume).
But this is no crystal ball prediction. I'll leave the ball rubbing to you.

Cheers!



Very well said :oops: :lol:
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Cu Penny Hoarder » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:11 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:
Cu Penny Hoarder wrote:
Jonflyfish wrote:Perhap this is near the range top for silver where it meets some perilous resistance and slides into a deeper correction.
Maybe I'll be 100% wrong. Let's see...

Cheers!


Let me make sure I understand this correctly because what you wrote seems fairly complicated...

It might go down, but it might go up? :roll:

What a crystal ball prediction! :lol:


Yes. To say it might squeeze to the top of the range (I think we are there now) before it goes down. ECB has shot its load
Let the deleveraging begin(resume).
But this is no crystal ball prediction. I'll leave the ball rubbing to you.
Cheers!


Name calling and jokes aside, you're still saying that "it might go up, or it might go down" which is completely absurd. Bottom line is that NO ONE here can accurately predict up or down moves, especially in the short term.
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby TXBullion » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:20 pm

JohnFlyFish Can. And if you placed bets everytime he made his calls, youd be making $$ Granted there is a lot more behind the scenes that he doesnt post. I dont know why everyone always comments him down when you just go through and see that he obviously is able to make $$ with what he says. I bet he owns basketball teams or something :D

If you look at the things he says, its not always yes or no. Im not sure how he derives his decisions, but now he thinks it will go down, so he shorts it 100$ total, then the price goes up 2$ total, he then puts in another short for 200$ dollars at the increased price, the price then drops to 3$ below the original price, he mad money on both shorts......... Im not into the trading but I really think he has a good way to do things. Maybe I give him too much credit but then I see people running around here making predictions that are 90% wrong where he is wright 90% of the time. (really 100% of the time).

Dont take this personally but i have seen him get shot down by at least 3 different people and it gets annoying. Just leave the guy alone, and let those who appreciate his words hear them.

Thanks for your posts JFF , and Im on the JFF boat!
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby fb101 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:13 pm

Jonflyfish wrote:Perhap this is near the range top for silver where it meets some perilous resistance and slides into a deeper correction.
Maybe I'll be 100% wrong. Let's see...

Cheers!


You think we'll correct deeper from here?

At 35.09 we blew through the Fibonacci level of $34.70 ( 50% retracement )
and the next one to worry about is $36.77 which represents a 61.8% rally.

I'd appreciate an real answer..........I'm questioning not debating..........
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Beau » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:25 pm

TXBullion wrote:JohnFlyFish Can. And if you placed bets everytime he made his calls, youd be making $$ Granted there is a lot more behind the scenes that he doesnt post. I dont know why everyone always comments him down when you just go through and see that he obviously is able to make $$ with what he says. I bet he owns basketball teams or something :D

If you look at the things he says, its not always yes or no. Im not sure how he derives his decisions, but now he thinks it will go down, so he shorts it 100$ total, then the price goes up 2$ total, he then puts in another short for 200$ dollars at the increased price, the price then drops to 3$ below the original price, he mad money on both shorts......... Im not into the trading but I really think he has a good way to do things. Maybe I give him too much credit but then I see people running around here making predictions that are 90% wrong where he is wright 90% of the time. (really 100% of the time).

Dont take this personally but i have seen him get shot down by at least 3 different people and it gets annoying. Just leave the guy alone, and let those who appreciate his words hear them.

Thanks for your posts JFF , and Im on the JFF boat!



GO GET EM TX ITS ABOUT TIME SOMEONE DID
JFF please don`t quit because of a few people like these.
tell us what is going to happen.

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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby shinnosuke » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:07 pm

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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:32 pm

Cu Penny Hoarder wrote:[
Name calling and jokes aside, you're still saying that "it might go up, or it might go down" which is completely absurd. Bottom line is that NO ONE here can accurately predict up or down moves, especially in the short term.


You are right to a certain extent, and so is JFF. What JFF is saying is it looks like a trend downward still to come, but the market is so volatile he cannot accurately predict which way it is going to go. He is playing his hunches based on the best info. he can find (just like all of us). He is hedging what he says so that no one will blindly follow him and then latter blame him for doing so. Basically, both of you are saying the same thing, just using different words. Cut him some slack, okay?

I like to listen to JFF. I don't fully understand all of it, but I still enjoy reading about it! :)

About 3+ weeks ago, I personally predicted silver would drop to $25 before it starts it's next trend upwards. JFF is confirming what I think.
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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby Jonflyfish » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:27 am

Aloha friends. My apologies that I am not able to be here more to chat with friends. Appreciate the kind remarks. It would seem that the same conditions exist as posted earlier. A massive deleveraging event seems to be building as now the ECB is cutting rates as they previously vowed not to. Risk on demand is drying up like cement. Supply and USD tidal shift in the works. Perhaps I'll be 100% wrong. The future is always unknowable. Mind your risk.

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Re: Imminent Silver Correction

Postby TXBullion » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:34 am

Jonflyfish wrote:Aloha friends. My apologies that I am not able to be here more to chat with friends. Appreciate the kind remarks. It would seem that the same conditions exist as posted earlier. A massive deleveraging event seems to be building as now the ECB is cutting rates as they previously vowed not to. Risk on demand is drying up like cement. Supply and USD tidal shift in the works. Perhaps I'll be 100% wrong. The future is always unknowable. Mind your risk.

Cheers!
J


Can you clarify what is "risk on demand"? I have not heard that before and is intriguing :)
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