Times are getting tough out there guys

[aloneibreak]

If you're willing to work hard, can pass a drug test and can relocate, get your ass to south or west Texas.
Boom times and big bucks. Billboards everywhere seeking workers in the oil patch.

Any clue you know the pay?

Whats the cost of living over there?

Id jump on a decent paying job like that in a second...I may have to look into it

tim forgot to mention it NEVER rains in west texas

[argent_pur]

When my sister went to the fin. aid office at our community college to find out about getting help paying....they told her to go have a baby and the state will pay for it all!

She didn't do that obviously, but I read somewhere that the marginal tax rates on some low-income people can reach 100%!!!! Meaning that for every dollar you earn, the gov't strips you of one dollar in benefits, essentially taking away every last shred of incentive to work. Not only that, but many states have asset limits ($2-3000 usually) that a person can have in liquid assets before being kicked out of the programs. I understand they don't want people having huge cash sums while getting food stamps, but that's really not an issue for most low-income people, not to mention that 2 grand can go in a blink if there's an accident of some kind. Fortunately, some states are allowing people to save through IRA's and those assets aren't counted. I'd say though that many poor folks wouldn't know where to begin setting that up and many don't have the motivation to save anyway, but I'm glad some states are at least allowing personal savings.

[schockergd]

Times are tough but if you're willing to work and do what you need to survive , times aren't THAT bad.

We had a set out eviction about a month ago at an apartment my brother and I own. Took about a hour and a half to set out all their possessions, I felt bad thinking to myself 'wow, I can't believe we're setting out all their stuff'. Then a boyfriend of the tenant showed up........to watch me and two others throw out their stuff. Once we got it all done, vans & cars show up to haul it all off, they just wanted us to do all the work!

[TXTim]

If you're willing to work hard, can pass a drug test and can relocate, get your ass to south or west Texas.
Boom times and big bucks. Billboards everywhere seeking workers in the oil patch.

Any clue you know the pay?

Whats the cost of living over there?

Id jump on a decent paying job like that in a second...I may have to look into it

http://shalezonejobs.jobamatic.com/a/jo ... ford+shale
http://www.indeed.com/q-OXY-PERMIAN-jobs.html

[neilgin1]

lets retitle this thread; "Blessed are the meek..."

whoo boy, Thank You Jesus for revealing the darkness inherent in my own heart and the hearts of my brothers. Just fill me with Your Holy Spirit and let my hands be Your Hands, my heart be Your Heart...please keep me from the schemes of the devil and his sons of darkness, fill me with mercy and love and charity, and i thank You Jesus, for the Words you spoke when you told me, to "sell my cloak and buy a sword", amen.

[TXTim]

http://fuelfix.com/blog/2011/11/15/boom ... nt-search/

High $$$ jobs!

[rickygee]

Im also seeing more wandering homeless folks hanging out by our wal mart doing their begging stint.... I always offer them food. you might be surprised that most wont take it.... I never got that. Sealed stuff and all so its not like they are likely to be afraid i did something to it.

Coming out of the Wally last night young guy, 22+/-, standing at the exit of the parking lot with a cardboard sign: "Even a little helps." and then a crudely drawn icthus. Now, since I'd done some grocery shopping, I wish I'd offered him a can of tuna or sardines in mustard sauce. I had 'em both. Another missed opportunity.

[Tourney64]

Make welfare very uncomfortable. Actually require some sort of work to receive taxpayer $$$.

[pennypicker]

Months back before I moved out of California I read an newspaper article that said a pregnant single Mexican woman who illegally crossed over into California and then gave birth would have a better quality of life than a childless, single woman who was a legal California citizen who had a minimum wage job!!

Because the child was born in California, as opposed to Mexico, it automatically becomes a U.S. citizen and in California the illegal alien mother is entitled to all kinds of benefits which in total will enable the mother to have a better quality of life than the single mother of legal residence who only makes minimum wage.

By the way California just announced they need billions to repair all their bad roads but don't have the money. Politicians are proposing to raise the gasoline tax.

Three months ago I permanently left California and just before I crossed over the Oregon border I threw a penny onto the highway and said, "this is the last cent you'll ever get from me"--and yes I made sure it was a zinc!!!

[shinnosuke]

Months back before I moved out of California I read an newspaper article that said a pregnant single Mexican woman who illegally crossed over into California and then gave birth would have a better quality of life than a childless, single woman who was a legal California citizen who had a minimum wage job!!

Because the child was born in California, as opposed to Mexico, it automatically becomes a U.S. citizen and in California the illegal alien mother is entitled to all kinds of benefits which in total will enable the mother to have a better quality of life than the single mother of legal residence who only makes minimum wage.

By the way California just announced they need billions to repair all their bad roads but don't have the money. Politicians are proposing to raise the gasoline tax.

Three months I left California and just before I crossed over the Oregon border I threw a penny onto the highway and said, "this is the last cent you'll ever get from me"--and yes I made sure it was a zinc!!!

Most of us can appreciate that our ancestors came to the US or Canada many years ago in search of a better life for themselves and for their progeny. However, in those days, there was no welfare magnet pulling them here. They were faced with the prospect of years, heck, a lifetime of hard work, but at least they would likely be better off than they were under the corrupt feudal systems of the Old World. This is proven out by the fact that most of them stayed here. Now we have a debt-plagued system that is going to crash that gives away freebies to anybody that can sneak in. Can't last much longer.

There is an enemy among us and the crashing of our way of life has been intentional.

[pennypicker]

Most of us can appreciate that our ancestors came to the US or Canada many years ago in search of a better life for themselves and for their progeny. However, in those days, there was no welfare magnet pulling them here. They were faced with the prospect of years, heck, a lifetime of hard work, but at least they would likely be better off than they were under the corrupt feudal systems of the Old World. This is proven out by the fact that most of them stayed here. Now we have a debt-plagued system that is going to crash that gives away freebies to anybody that can sneak in. Can't last much longer.

There is an enemy among us and the crashing of our way of life has been intentional.

Very well said......

[Mossy]

There is an enemy among us and the crashing of our way of life has been intentional.

Their children are going to live a life of decadent luxury, in a garbage dump. An economy needs a healthy bottom layer and healthy layers on the way up, a pyramid. It should not look like a skinny rod poking up out of a sewer.

[jasmatk]

I stoped for gas one morning a homeless man told me how hungry he was and this and that,so I told him when I paid for my gas I would buy him a muffin.He looked at me and said "could you go to burger king and get me a sausage biscuit" so I say no and now your not getting anything.If he was truely hungry he would of took the free muffin he just wanted money.

I had another panhandler at a intersection tell me he only made 12 dollars and he had been standing there sense 11am it was 12:30 thats 1 1/2 hours thats 8 dollars per hour I told him well your making more than minium wage.

[knibloe]

Any dairy farm around will hire you to milk cows. Generally, they will give you as many hours as you want also.

[fansubs_ca]

Now rent where I live is right around $1500, so not cheap, but not crazy high either.

Er, I think that's more than my (after tax) income! My friends who do
rent pay between $400-$500/month for a tiny, kinda run down place
to $700-$800/month for a kinda OK sized one bedroom in good shape.
Even at that I'm glad I have a paid for house. I now have a justification
for being in Winnipeg, many other places "the rent is too damn high"!

$1500 is more than my property taxes for a year! One of these days I
really have to add up my utility bills and figure out how to amortize
the maintenance cost to find my actual "occupancy cost".

Any dairy farm around will hire you to milk cows. Generally, they will give you as many hours as you want also.

They don't worry about the 40 hour cap before the overtime laws kick in?
Or are you considered a "contractor" rather than an "employee"?

Also with modern milking machines just how much labour is still needed
to milk a herd each day? I was always under the impression that all but
the largest farms were a 1 or 2 person operation? Not that I'm anywhere
"near" a dairy farm myself. (It's 6 miles just to get to the "edge" of my
city, no telling how far past that is the nearest dairy farm.) Most really
poor people around here live even further from the city edge right in the
center. The farmers are generally surrounded by other farmers intermixed
with upper middle class people who want houses big enough that the
property tax savings of leaving the city makes up for the extra driving cost.

[blackrabbit]

Yea that is weird, I have been to very small organic dairy farms and even they had milking machinery.

[BOHICA]

I worked a dairy farm when I was younger and even though they are mechanized there is still a lot of work. You have to get the cows into the stall, wash the teats, hang and adjust the machinery and monitor everything. It took three of us two hours every morning to run 200+ cows through.

[sparechange]

Don't forget the poop scooping for 200 cows!!

[Rosco]

Three months ago I permanently left California and just before I crossed over the Oregon border I threw a penny onto the highway and said, "this is the last cent you'll ever get from me"--and yes I made sure it was a zinc!!!

Welcome an good luck on the jobs here We still have it better then Califlala land. Pay may be less but rents in
Small towns are cheaper also Where did you settle??

[cesariojpn]

I stoped for gas one morning a homeless man told me how hungry he was and this and that,so I told him when I paid for my gas I would buy him a muffin.He looked at me and said "could you go to burger king and get me a sausage biscuit" so I say no and now your not getting anything.If he was truely hungry he would of took the free muffin he just wanted money.

At least you didn't get a homeless guy that tried to accuse you of "poisoning" him with Burger King....

[cesariojpn]

Don't forget the poop scooping for 200 cows!!

[pennypicker]

Three months ago I permanently left California and just before I crossed over the Oregon border I threw a penny onto the highway and said, "this is the last cent you'll ever get from me"--and yes I made sure it was a zinc!!!

Welcome an good luck on the jobs here We still have it better then Califlala land. Pay may be less but rents in
Small towns are cheaper also Where did you settle??

Based on your location (SW Oregon) I think we are pretty close. I settled in Medford. Eugene was my first choice but it simply rains much too much there. I've lived in the Mojave desert the last 25 years where it rains only five days a year and such a drastic change in climate would have been too severe both physically and psychologically.