owch! man dumps stolen coin collection into coin machine

[drummer55]

From my neck of the woods...

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Deputies ... 58663.html

According to a press release, deputies have recovered much of the stolen property but Johnson allegedly dumped the coin collection into a coin counting machine in Gresham and received about $450.

[NHsorter]

Busted!!! HaHa!

Now the Police will hold those coins as evidence. How long, if ever, until the owner gets them back?

[uthminsta]

Opened the link and immediately thought something I shouldn't have about the man pictured. Lord, I apologize.

[woodyh]

hope he gets what he deserves
and that the collector gets his coins back

[henrysmedford]

Do you live in Portland. I am in Medford. I think Oregon must have about twenty Realcenters.

[thedrifter]

Do you live in Portland. I am in Medford. I think Oregon must have about twenty Realcenters.

I am in Burns.

[pennypicker]

Unfortunately with Oregon's budget woes and the fact it was a non-violent crime he will probably be out of jail in just months.

[galenrog]

try days. happened near gresham, not burns, where the perp would be likely to find himself at the wrong end of something that can cause great bodily harm.

[henrysmedford]

It made it to coinflation---- http://www.coinflation.com/

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[Silver Addict]

Victim was the perp's father.

[henrysmedford]

Victim was the perp's father.

Rare coins, other valuables recovered after Christmas theft from Corbett home
Published: Thursday, January 05, 2012, 10:13 PM Updated: Friday, January 06, 2012, 6:04 AM
A ring of Christmas thieves probably thought they had pulled off an lucrative heist when they broke into a shed in Corbett and made off with tools and two safes brimming with jewels, silver bricks and valuable coins.

They didn't count on a dogged detective, a determined victim, a helpful pawnshop database and a banker who knows coins.

On Thursday, Dan Johnson Sr., and assorted relatives and friends sat at tables in a Multnomah County Sheriff's Office auditorium in East Portland, sifting through more than 600 pounds of coins recovered from a Safeway CoinStar machine, trying to recreate a collection handed down from Johnson's father-in-law.

Meanwhile, deputies were searching for the 27-year-old suspected mastermind of the $50,000 theft: Dan Johnson Jr., the victim's son.

The younger Johnson is believed to be couch surfing somewhere in East County, said Detective Ken Yohe.

Yohe believes Johnson Jr. planned the break-in with two other men, hoping to steal tools. But he was surprised to find the safes, which he left to his cohorts, Yohe said.


View full sizeMultnomah County Sheriff
Dan Johnson Jr. is being sought be Multnomah County Sheriff's detectives in connection with a burglary at his father's home.
Before discovering the thefts on Christmas afternoon, Johnson Sr., 54, called to invite his namesake son to join the family for Christmas supper. When relatives discovered the outbuildings had been burgled, Dan Jr. feigned surprise, police said, and pointed the finger at a man police now believe was one of his partners.

Yohe ran the names of that suspect's known associates through RAPID, a pawnshop database. The man's girlfriend, who did not have a criminal record, showed up twice after pawning a long list of items that Johnson Sr.'s wife recognized as stolen.

When deputies showed up at the apartment the couple shared, they found a sack filled with four silver bricks, 1,400 silver half dollars and hundreds of silver dollars -- in the dryer – along with more evidence, Yohe said.

Faced with first-degree aggravated theft charges, the pair, who police aren't yet naming, agreed to cooperate and revealed a plot that sounds like the stuff of Hollywood crime comedy:

First, the man described opening the two 1.2-cubic foot safes and finding the unexpected bounty inside: Silver coins and silver bricks worth more than $20,000, jewelry worth $25,000 and roughly $7,000 in other coins and currency.

After unwrapping thousands of rolled of coins, the suspect said he and his cohorts took more than 50 pounds of them to a nearby Safeway store.


View full sizeRandy L. Rasmussen/The Oregonian
Among the old coins found by authorities after the burglary at the Johnson home in Corbertt were these rare nickels and pennies. One of the men involved in the theft later told detectives that many of the coins were run through a CoinStar machine; others were exchanged at a bank.
Not understanding the value of the coins, they ran them through a CoinStar machine, which spit out a voucher for $450. It also spit out all the silver coins – which the suspect then traded for bills at a Bank of America branch. That's when a bank employee picked up on the fact that the coins were old and silver and set them aside, which made it easy for police to later recover them.

Then, mistaking the diamonds and emeralds they found as fakes, they tossed them in a Dumpster. The rest went to pawn shops in Portland and Gresham.

Finally, the crooks burned savings bonds in the safe because they were in the victim's name.

"A lot of times in property cases, you're not going to recover property," said Yohe. "This time, we're finding stuff."

Fingers blackened by dirty coins, Yohe watched Dan Johnson Sr. and his close friends and relatives plow through shoeboxes of pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters Thursday afternoon. They were searching for 1921 Indian cents, Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickels and Peace dollar coins.

One uncirculated nickel was worth about $3. A 1889 U.S. Morgan silver dollar with an "O" mint marking and little wear, could fetch nearly $50 from a collector. "Some were worth a couple hundred dollars apiece," said Johnson Sr.

"This was for the grandchildren," he said, turning over pennies to study the dates

[uthminsta]

Hopefully, with all that searching, he will find a few little bonuses...
Oh, and I bet he is so proud of his son. "This was for the grandchildren." Amen to that! Of course, if you give them to your son's kids, he might still steal them.

[highroller4321]

Coinstar doesn't accept silver so not sure what they are really looking to find by looking through the coins.....

[henrysmedford]

Coinstar doesn't accept silver so not sure what they are really looking to find by looking through the coins.....

Among the old coins found by authorities after the burglary at the Johnson home in Corbertt were these rare nickels and pennies. One of the men involved in the theft later told detectives that many of the coins were run through a CoinStar machine; others were exchanged at a bank.
Not understanding the value of the coins, they ran them through a CoinStar machine, which spit out a voucher for $450. It also spit out all the silver coins – which the suspect then traded for bills at a Bank of America branch. That's when a bank employee picked up on the fact that the coins were old and silver and set them aside, which made it easy for police to later recover them.

[uthminsta]

[CoinStar] spit out all the silver coins – which the suspect then traded for bills at a Bank of America branch.

Which of these did you feel when you read that line:
A) all those uninformed people need to keep this up, so we can stack more!!!
or
B) oh man, all my stuff is probably from some punk stealing his dad's collection.

[slickeast]

Coinstar doesn't accept silver so not sure what they are really looking to find by looking through the coins.....

I do believe that the coinstar will accept 1909 s-vdb's and any other non-silver coin that has numismatic value.

[OneBiteAtATime]

According to a press release, deputies have recovered much of the stolen property but Johnson allegedly dumped the coin collection into a coin counting machine in Gresham and received about $450.

Does anyone else see the irony that this happened in a place named, "Gresham"?

Bad money drives out good.

[penny pretty]

read this on coinflation. now I want to stalk coinstar machines and offer to buy these fools coins!

[henrysmedford]

The movie of them resorting the coinstar-- http://video-embed.oregonlive.com/services/player/bcpid619299305001?bctid=1368298686001

[TwoAndAHalfCents]

All of those people sitting there sorting the coins. Even the cops are in on it. What a waste of time. How about just paying Coinstar for the full 600 pounds and keeping them all. The machine should have the total face value already counted. Of course $450 of that big batch are already the victim's coins but there's got to be a better way to get that $450 back from the bad guys. One of them is his own son!!

[uthminsta]

I know... if I was that man, I would be excited to look through all them myself, wouldn't you?!?

[Dinero2005]

Putting his coins in a SAFE kinda defeated the purpose when they just took the safe and probably used a crowbar or something to open it. How many of you have a safe and bolt it to the wall/ground?