theo wrote: I believe the first three digits in a person's SS# indicates their place of birth..
theo wrote:I don't see them getting anywhere with the birth certificate. Obama has provided what appears to be a valid certificate and the State of Hawaii seems to support its legitamacy. Fair or not, the burden of proof appears to fall to the plaintiffs. Unless they can provide some very compelling evidence, the case (though possibly embarrassing to Obama) looks like it will be a non-event.
IdahoCopper wrote:If a case does actually get before a judge to determine the facts of the alleged birth certificate, here are the high points that will cause Obama's impeachment:
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Did President Obama fake his birth certificate? Here are just some of the facts that raise doubts about the authenticity of the Obama’s birth certificate:
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’ So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn’t even used at that time?
2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in ” Kenya , East Africa “.
This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the ” British East Africa Protectorate.”
3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital “.
This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
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Those three simple reasons are what will impeach Obama.
theo wrote:read pages 25-31 on Minor vs. Happersett (1874), which sets precedent.
I have a few questions.
1. Are there any later SCOTUS decisions which broaden the definition of a natural born citizen? Any such decision would void Minor v Happersett in the same way that Brown v Board of Education voided Plessy v Ferguson.
2. If there no such SCOTUS decision and it is really that simple then why weren't we discussing this four years ago! Its embarrassing to have been spinning our wheels over the "birther" issue while missing something this clear cut.
theo wrote:read pages 25-31 on Minor vs. Happersett (1874), which sets precedent.
I have a few questions.
1. Are there any later SCOTUS decisions which broaden the definition of a natural born citizen? Any such decision would void Minor v Happersett in the same way that Brown v Board of Education voided Plessy v Ferguson.
2. If there no such SCOTUS decision and it is really that simple then why weren't we discussing this four years ago! Its embarrassing to have been spinning our wheels over the "birther" issue while missing something this clear cut.
Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay wrote:theo wrote:read pages 25-31 on Minor vs. Happersett (1874), which sets precedent.
I have a few questions.
1. Are there any later SCOTUS decisions which broaden the definition of a natural born citizen? Any such decision would void Minor v Happersett in the same way that Brown v Board of Education voided Plessy v Ferguson.
2. If there no such SCOTUS decision and it is really that simple then why weren't we discussing this four years ago! Its embarrassing to have been spinning our wheels over the "birther" issue while missing something this clear cut.
Theo, the first law suit challenging Obama's status as a natural born citizen was filed before Mr. O got the nomination. It was filed by Atty. Phil Berg, a Democrat and Hillary Clinton supporter. There have been lawsuits filed before the election; after the election, but before the Electoral College vote; after the Electoral College vote, but before the Inauguration; and after the Inauguration. The Judicial Branch of our government refuses to deal with this. They say it falls under "The Political Question Doctrine" and thus is out of their hands.
The judicial system is broken in this country. AND the MSM wants Mr. O in office so badly, they look the other way instead of dealing head on with this travesty.
There are at least two lawyers who are regulars on this blog.... What say they?
Sheikh_yer_Bu'Tay wrote:theo wrote: ... The Judicial Branch of our government refuses to deal with this. They say it falls under "The Political Question Doctrine" and thus is out of their hands.
HPMBTT wrote:During the live C-SPAN session in Congress right before the inauguration when all the states had to declare their electoral votes count (for McCain or Zero), Dick Cheney never directly asked the audience if there was any objection, as required in the Constitution. There was a person who raised their hand in the audience; when that happened, Pelosi interrupted Cheney and immediately jumped up and quickly clapped her hands loudly, so as to incourage everyone to clap (which they did) and drown out the person objecting. As far as I'm concerned, all of them are corrupt and should be tried at the highest level. I remember watching the live session and couldn't believe it; my heart sank at that exact moment and I knew then that the country was doomed.
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